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Antti_K Very Obsessed Member

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Hello Massimo & Co.,

 

here is a photo of the Il-28R's bomb bay. Airplane nose points to the left.

 

Note the following details:

- "dirty" or "brownish" orange colour

- original golden yellow visible on undersides of the equipment shelves and on door operating mechanism

- dark olive green brackets for the cameras and the winch (only a camera  or winch was carried at any one time)

- the area behind the rear camera where orange paint has chipped away

 

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Cheers,

Antti

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You are welcome Massimo,

 

funny isn't it? this airplane (registration NH-4) is a reconnaissance version having also an extra camera bay built in the rear fuselage. There are doors in that compartment for one vertical and one oblique camera pointing out to Port side. Note that both yellow and orange paint again are visible.

 

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Larger "AFA" -cameras could be carried in the bomb bay for survey work (Il-28Rs weren't originally equipped for carrying bombs). There were large plates that were to be installed below and around the camera thus reducing drag when the bomb bay doors were opened. Rather cumbersome I would say. Another example, NH-1, was a bomber version and it was used exclusively for aerial survey work and it had modified bomb bay doors. An opening was cut in the middle of the doors and rails attached on both sides of the opening for a sliding door. A flat window was installed and that was protected by the sliding door which was opened just before a photo run. Much more simpler and less drag. This was a conversion designed and constructed here in Finland. The original Russian way was to fly with the bomb bay doors opened.

 

The winch is for target towing. NH-4 carried a newer and better winch, as it was more powerful and you could reel the wire back in after the shooting. NH-1 was the only example equipped with the original winch that was pretty bad. And you couldn't reel the wire back in; it had to be jettisoned with the target still attached. A soft target wouldn't have been a problem but those hard "kite" targets must have been interesting to work with. The Russians provided us even with the huge (roughly the size of a Mirage III) wooden "darts". Here is another Il-28R (NH-3) taking off with the "dart".

 

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The wire run from the winch along a guide tube and into a special "tow tail". Here's a scratch built example in my 1/48 scale Il-28R.

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Cheers,

Antti

 

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Akan Man Newbie

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Доброго дня!

Извините, но мой английский язык =---1

На второй странице Есть моё фото с Михаилом Орловым. OrlovAkanihinOriginalAIIZ.jpg

Благодаря ему и своим поискам оригиналов в 1997 году были созданы краски серии АМТ и не только

АМТ-1: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/109/136/63000.html

АМТ-4: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63001.html

АМТ-7: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63002.html

АМТ-11: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63044.html

АМТ-12: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63045.html

Фотографии не исследую, а только в работу идут достоверные материалы. Как они выглядят на фото на различных экранах (даже калиброванных) меня не сильно интересует. Есть и в этой ветке такого рода исследователей экранов, но я с ними не спорю и вам не советую.

С уважением Александр Аканихин, создатель"Краски АКАН".

 

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JasonC Very Obsessed Member

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8 minutes ago, Akan Man said:

Доброго дня!

Извините, но мой английский язык =---1

На второй странице Есть моё фото с Михаилом Орловым. 

Благодаря ему и своим поискам оригиналов в 1997 году были созданы краски серии АМТ и не только

АМТ-1: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/109/136/63000.html

АМТ-4: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63001.html

АМТ-7: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63002.html

АМТ-11: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63044.html

АМТ-12: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63045.html

Фотографии не исследую, а только в работу идут достоверные материалы. Как они выглядят на фото на различных экранах (даже калиброванных) меня не сильно интересует. Есть и в этой ветке такого рода исследователей экранов, но я с ними не спорю и вам не советую.

С уважением Александр Аканихин, создатель"Краски АКАН".

 

 

Google translated so you don't have to.

 

"Good day! Sorry, but my english language = --- 1

 

On the second page there is my photo with Mikhail Orlov. Thanks to him and his search for originals, in 1997, the AMT series paints were created and not only

 

AMT-1: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/109/136/63000.html

AMT-4: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63001.html

AMT-7: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63002.html

AMT-11: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63044.html

AMT-12: http://shop.akan.ru/ru/6xxxx-series/63045.html

 

I do not research photographs, but only reliable materials are used. How they look in the photo on various screens (even calibrated ones) does not really interest me. There are also screen researchers of this kind in this thread, but I do not argue with them, and advise you not to.

 

Respectfully yours, Alexander Akanikhin, creator of "Paint AKAN"."

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Learstang Completely Obsessed Member

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Добро пожаловать! Welcome to the site, Mr. Akanikhin! It's nice to have you here! It will be interesting to have your comments on Soviet colours and paints. 

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

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Akan Man Newbie

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Good evening! Thank you for your kind words. My research is not limited to the colors of the USSR-Russia. There is a list not so extensive, but still: England, Germany, USA, Japan, France, Finland, Ukraine, Greece, Iran...All this can be found on my website and look at it. There are also various metallics and consumables. Today there are more than 2200 different colors in total.

 

 

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Antti_K Very Obsessed Member

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10 hours ago, Massimo Tessitori said:

Hi Antti,

that flying target seems very easy to scratchbuild. The ensemble could turn out into an appealling model. Only, the required space on the shelf would be huge. 

Il-28 is a nice plane, I wonder if the kit of Trumpeter is nice enough. 

Regards

Massimo

 

Hello Massimo,

I have the original Russian drawing from the weapons manual already scaled down. Next I need to scale up my shelf...

 

The Trumpeter kit is the bomber version (released also by Italeri with Finnish decals). To my eye it looks like the parts are the same. The major problem is the wing; it is twice as thick as it should be and it also shows an inverted gull-wing effect. The wing should be straight with zero dihedral. Also the landing gear is too tall.

 

Cheers,

Antti

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The Trumpeter kit is the bomber version (released also by Italeri with Finnish decals). To my eye it looks like the parts are the same. The major problem is the wing; it is twice as thick as it should be and it also shows an inverted gull-wing effect. The wing should be straight with zero dihedral. Also the landing gear is too tall.

 

Hi Antti, thank you for the note. The wing looks an hard work. 

Regards

Massimo

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