Nocoolname Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Hi folks! Could someone please help me identify the munitions being carried on these aircraft? I'm hoping to build something like this but can't find details on what the yellow and grey munitions in particular are. Cheers! Nocool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Nocoolname said: Hi folks! Could someone please help me identify the munitions being carried on these aircraft? I'm hoping to build something like this but can't find details on what the yellow and grey munitions in particular are. Cheers! Nocool! Four Flight Test inert round Storm Shadow missiles, and two Drill ALARM missiles. Selwyn 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Selwyn said: Four Flight Test inert round Storm Shadow missiles, and two Drill ALARM missiles. Selwyn Great stuff! Many thanks Selwyn 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Not a very realistic mission scenario though especially with the impact on range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Storm Shadow is a standoff weapon so range isn't an issues. The most recent conflicts the RAF have been involved in have all been Deployments so they were "in theatre" also with AAR support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Interesting mixing them around on the wing stations! And a replacement taileron fitted. It should be noted that ZA354 in the photo was a BAe trials and test airframe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Selwyn said: Four Flight Test inert round Storm Shadow missiles, and two Drill ALARM missiles. Selwyn Apologies for being pedantic but I think the load out is at least 3 and I suspect 4 drill ALARM missiles. Edited May 27, 2020 by Agent K typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @Nocoolname: Storm Shadows are included in RoG's 1/72nd "previous tool" Typhoon kit. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-04317-eurofighter-typhoon-single-seater--102262 HTH, Andte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Not just a replacement taileron but note camouflaged wings yet grey belly? I thought that only P03 had grey undersides. Perhaps more likely is that this has been repainted to check jettison trials at some stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 Thanks folks! I’m doing this in 1/48 based on the Revell kit. I have the Storm Shadows already and believe I also have some Alarm missiles also. What’s still driving me nuts though is not knowing what model ejection seat Revell based their parts on. Broad shape resembles a Mk 10 but the details don’t match making it problematic to source references 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Agent K said: Apologies for being pedantic but I think the load out is at least 3 and I suspect 4 drill ALARM missiles. Where's the other two? I'm just seeing one on each wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 71chally said: Where's the other two? I'm just seeing one on each wing. I can see the nose of the STBD one poking out from behind the respective Storm Shadow. I think that if there are 2 mounted on the STBD wing shoulder pylons, this is probably repeated on the Pt side. Edited May 27, 2020 by Jabba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, 71chally said: Where's the other two? I'm just seeing one on each wing. You can see the nose of the second one appearing behind the nearest Storm Shadow, and hence there being at least 3, and my surmising then that the probable initial load out would therefore be 4; with 2 on each wing with the 4th hidden behind the farthest Storm Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Although hidden behind an account creation area, I think you can see enough in this picture of the same aircraft/test that it is indeed carrying 4 ALARMS. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/panavia-tornado-gr1-za354-bae-systems-16276810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ah yes, well hidden, that explains why I thought the stores were on different wing stations, but they're not. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nocoolname said: Thanks folks! I’m doing this in 1/48 based on the Revell kit. I have the Storm Shadows already and believe I also have some Alarm missiles also. What’s still driving me nuts though is not knowing what model ejection seat Revell based their parts on. Broad shape resembles a Mk 10 but the details don’t match making it problematic to source references 😡 Its a Gr1 so it will be mk10a Also note this Aircraft had Low viz formation strip lights on the fin sides, each intake & wing tips. Edited May 27, 2020 by tweeky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, 71chally said: Ah yes, well hidden, that explains why I thought the stores were on different wing stations, but they're not. Thank you. You're welcome, always good to have these discussions! I know for myself I learn a lot here, even when I thought I knew a lot anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, tweeky said: Also note this Aircraft had Low viz formation strip lights on the fin sides, each intake & wing tips. Is there also one on the nose just below the IFR and ahead of the grey aerial thing(sorry do not know correct name of this )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Pitot static Vents from memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just amazed at 19 posts in nobody has mentioned the camera fairings on the engine bay door and the one replacing the LRMTS fairing under the nose! Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Selwyn said: Just amazed at 19 posts in nobody has mentioned the camera fairings on the engine bay door and the one replacing the LRMTS fairing under the nose! Selwyn It is a dedicated testplane, and the question was more about armament! At least the wing mounted Alarm serup wad used in Granby, no? Always wonder about pros and cons of the wing vs belly liad of tanks snd weapond on the Tornado! Also Italy and Germany put their Harm missiles sometimes on the wing pylons and the (small of course) tanks on the belly... Edited May 28, 2020 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, exdraken said: At least the wing mounted Alarm serup wad used in Granby, no? Not this set up on Granby. Very early in the conflict they were fitted with launch rail directly onto the wing pylon. Later they were fitted with launch rail onto the fuselage pylons. I think that they used the wing shoulder pylons for Alarm on Op Telic, but would have to check my refs before saying for certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/26/2020 at 11:39 PM, tweeky said: Storm Shadow is a standoff weapon so range isn't an issues. The most recent conflicts the RAF have been involved in have all been Deployments so they were "in theatre" also with AAR support. Quite so, it’s the mix of a stand off cruise missile with four alarms that is eccentric. If you’re stood off you don’t need four alarms. You might need alarms to penetrate territory before launching stand off but if you’re doing that you need fuel, unless there’s no SAM threat to your tankers, in which case you don’t need alarms for yourself... Four storm shadows is about 12000lbs weight so you ain’t going far without a tanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 What I don't understand is why all of the speculation above around the reason for the load? They're dummy rounds attached to a prototype. For all we know they were simply testing the aircraft response against maximum 'possible' loadouts rather than 'likely' loadouts. I just thought it made an interesting subject for a build 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Oh absolutely. I once did a AV8B with 16 x 500lbs snakeyes. Theoretically it would take off conventionally.... i think theres also a pic of a tornado with 9 ALARMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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