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mick b

1/350th HMS Ekins Captain Class DE - Trumpeter

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At least two other Captains class ships wore a similar scheme to that in the first post - photos of each appear in the IWM collection -  Curzon (Photo Ref A26373) and Fitzroy (FL13142) - although neither shows the lighter-coloured funnel and Curzon had light-coloured pendant numbers.

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4 hours ago, mick b said:

Hi Richard , thank you very much for your observations in an effort to determine this paint scheme. I would however dispute the claim that this was applied strictly for its new role as CFCF vessel as Ekins was not alone in this role and in fact 12 vessels operated in this role from April 44 to April 45, however Ekins was part of Nore Command up until this group of DEs also took on the CFCF role towards the end of 44 ( all of this according to Collingwood in his book) therefore the extremely worn appearance of Ekins in this photo indicates to me that this scheme was applied some time before the change in operations?

 

Unfortunately I cannot find photographs of the other vessels during this period, either before or after where this Ekins scheme is not present, perhaps she was a one off.

 

Mike

I don’t think we need to be disputatious! It is difficult to interpret tone in the written word but my “must” as in “This camouflage design must have been applied for that purpose” was a musing/pondering sort of must! On reflection “could” would perhaps have been a better choice of word. Anyhow that train of thought followed on from your suggestion further above that Ekins was painted in the so-called Channel scheme (“gay Channel camouflage”) during the summer of 1944 for her duties in support of D Day. If she was then a conscious decision must have been made afterwards when deployed back to  North Sea duties to repaint out of the Channel Scheme into the scheme photographed at Harwich in November for her later 1944 role(s). But maybe we should question whether she was ever in the Channel Scheme? Is there evidence for that? Best wishes, Richard

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Hi Richard

 

As per my previous post the view that Ekins was painted in the Channel camouflage was from Peter Elliott’s history of the vessel in his Allied Escort book. However in the same book he has captioned a photograph of Balfour as being in the Channel scheme as below: 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Balfour_(K464)

 

However we know this to be a different scheme due to the demarcation as well as the fact Channel camouflage is shown to be a fussy multi coloured pattern in some sources, so he was mistaken?

 

Our Ned has provided two references for similar painted vessels as Ekins;  Curzon was part of the Nore and CFCF commands while Fitzroy was briefly with Nore before joining 21st EG, and looking at those images suggests the panel is still of a lighter tone than previously suggested but it’s all conjecture really?

 

cheers 

 

Mike

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2 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

That addition is superb! It all looks very convincing, and is the sort of detail that lifts such a model to a whole new level.

 

Really enjoying this thread, and at least one 1/350 Captain class will be added to my wish list.

 

Terry

Thank you for your kind words Terry, glad you’re enjoying it 👍

 

2 hours ago, Coors54 said:

Yup, dad mentioned that along with single messing and bunks rather than hammocks although something tells me that that the bunks were removed? He did say they were rather wet ships in rough weather but generally people thought they were better off than in British designed vessels.

Nice work on the brass wrangling Mike, and it's always a good idea to put your hand or something in to give scale, we forget how tiny 1/350th is with macro pictures, how anyone does 1/700 is beyond me!

 

Yours aye

Dave

Agreed that those who deal with 700th PE must have bionic eyes!

I read that initially they rolled quite a bit in rough weather due to the RN specification requiring the removal of equipment but this was alleviated some what by the fitting of the extra depth charge racks on the aft deck sides.

 

Mike

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