Devilfish Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Entering service in 1963 to fill GOR.339. Named the Thunder GR.1, the F-105K was the first two seat version of the F-105. The only changes from the US version were a conformal bomb bay to hold the Red Beard target marker, and the deletion of the 20mm gun, it being replaced by a strike camera. By the early 70's an updated version was put forward, which would see it re-engined and new avionics and cockpit displays. A Ferranti TFR, and side looking radar was fitted, along with an LRMTS under the nose. The nuclear role, having gone to the Navy, was removed, and conventional weapons catered for. 213 Sqn flew the Thunder GR.3 from RAF Gutersloh, mostly in the recon role, with the EMI pod, up until 1984, when the Thunder was replaced by the Hornet GR.1 Kit is the 1/48 Hobbyboss F-105G GR.1 (Monogram kit) and GR.3 20200510_145546 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150703 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150709 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150722 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150726 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150808 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200510_150740 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Two excellent builds Paul, love em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Love them but we would have put a Spey in and made it fatter and slower. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, iainpeden said: Love them but we would have put a Spey in and made it fatter and slower. The Spey is actually smaller in diameter and shorter than the TF-30 fitted to the F-111F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Nice work my first reaction on seeing them in grey green camo was that if you squinted sideways at them they looked a smidgen like a Sepecat product. perhaps an Armee de L’air one next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Devilfish said: The Spey is actually smaller in diameter and shorter than the TF-30 fitted to the F-111F The F-105 used the J-75 (I think the A-7 used the TF-30). When the UK government decided to put the Spey into the Phantom it needed a redesign to a) fit the thing and b) to allow the higher airflow needed - hence the RAF Phantom being about 6 inches wider than the J-79 powered version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, iainpeden said: The F-105 used the J-75 (I think the A-7 used the TF-30). When the UK government decided to put the Spey into the Phantom it needed a redesign to a) fit the thing and b) to allow the higher airflow needed - hence the RAF Phantom being about 6 inches wider than the J-79 powered version. Sorry, so busy at work, I'm confusing my builds. The Spey is still the same diameter as the J-75, but iirc , longer. The F-4J used the J-79 which is about 5 inches smaller in diameter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Devilfish said: Sorry, so busy at work, I'm confusing my builds. The Spey is still the same diameter as the J-75, but iirc , longer. The F-4J used the J-79 which is about 5 inches smaller in diameter No problem - but I think the key is that the Spey is a turbofan and needed a higher airflow than the turbojet J-79 hence the wider intakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, iainpeden said: No problem - but I think the key is that the Spey is a turbofan and needed a higher airflow than the turbojet J-79 hence the wider intakes. Can't get everything right, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBlondJohn Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Very nice - the F105 does look very British with those curves, like a super Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis95 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Looking fantastic! May I ask what colours you used on the lighter grey one of the pair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Looking super in the wrap around camo. 19 hours ago, TallBlondJohn said: Very nice - the F105 does look very British with those curves, like a super Hunter I'm thinking "Super Hunter" would be a great name for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Wonderful whifs looking great in RAF colours, excellent modelling ! Wulfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 2:37 PM, Lewis95 said: Looking fantastic! May I ask what colours you used on the lighter grey one of the pair? The lighter one was Tamiya Dark Sea Grey (XF-54?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis95 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Devilfish said: The lighter one was Tamiya Dark Sea Grey (XF-54?) Wow. Looks so much darker than I thought it would. How'd you make the grey appear so light and defined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lewis95 said: Wow. Looks so much darker than I thought it would. How'd you make the grey appear so light and defined? It's probably the lighting. I just put a panel line wash over it. Other than that, it's as it comes out of the jar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I have to agree. The F-105 looks very good in RAF colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Interesting! 😊 Was GOR. 339 the programme the ill fated Hawker P. 1121 was supposed to fill? I've considered an RAF F-105 for some time and, given the broadly similar performance /capabilities (obviously projected for the P. 1121), I'd think the 105 would be an ideal off the shelf replacement. My own concept would involve a minimum change aircraft with British avionics, Martin Baker bang seats and, retaining the 20mm cannon. I'd also add a Sidewinder launcher to each of the inboard pylons. Budgetary constraints prohibit me from buying the necessary kits at present . I had envisaged using the Trumpeter 1/32 F105 but, will have to downgrade to the 1/48 H B kits! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Very cool indeed, I once did one in Boscombe Down A&AEE colours - they look great with RAF roundels on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 7:10 AM, Albeback52 said: Interesting! 😊 Was GOR. 339 the programme the ill fated Hawker P. 1121 was supposed to fill? I've considered an RAF F-105 for some time and, given the broadly similar performance /capabilities (obviously projected for the P. 1121), I'd think the 105 would be an ideal off the shelf replacement. My own concept would involve a minimum change aircraft with British avionics, Martin Baker bang seats and, retaining the 20mm cannon. I'd also add a Sidewinder launcher to each of the inboard pylons. Budgetary constraints prohibit me from buying the necessary kits at present . I had envisaged using the Trumpeter 1/32 F105 but, will have to downgrade to the 1/48 H B kits! Allan No, it was the one that lead to the TSR.2. The RAF did actually look at the F-105 not once, but twice to fill this role, but rejected it. Not sure what the reasons were, but I guess it just wasn't "space age" enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Devilfish said: No, it was the one that lead to the TSR.2. The RAF did actually look at the F-105 not once, but twice to fill this role, but rejected it. Not sure what the reasons were, but I guess it just wasn't "space age" enough... Thanks for the info. 😊👍. Probably rejected at the time because of its high NIH (Not Invented Here) factor too!!, 😉. At the time, the 105 was still a relatively new aircraft which would likely have performed very well in the role that the Buccaneer ultimately fulfilled. If I recall correctly, the latter was ordered (rather reluctantly) by the RAF following TSR 2 demise. I have plans to do both single and, 2 seat versions. Allan Ps. I think the type also looks really mean and, raring to go! Edited August 19, 2020 by Albeback52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) On 5/13/2020 at 12:09 PM, iainpeden said: Love them but we would have put a Spey in and made it fatter and slower. And got ourselves the world's slowest, heaviest, most powerful and costliest F-105s years late because of the problems with (in my view anyway) completely unnecessary changes to an already good design!! 😂😂. Allan Edited August 22, 2020 by Albeback52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I agree, they look quite "natural" in these clothes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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