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HMS Victory - 1/100 Heller


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5 hours ago, europapete said:

BTW,  where did you get the parts for the figurehead and stern decorations? I bought some stern balustrades from Shapeways, but they are a bit on the small side and don't fit as well as yours. Regards, Pete in RI

Hello again :)
Mine balustrades olso not fit well on the side sterns. 
Тhe solution is to cut them, and glue them one by one at a slightly longer interval to fit.
Top and bottom also do not fit well, because they are shorter. I put thin strips of maple and it turned out well I think :) 
Look carefully at the photos;)

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Neat idea, thank you. Looks like we got the same parts from the same place. Was a bit dissapointed that they do not fit better but oh well, thats why we are modellers lol. I ordered a set of sails from HiSModel and they arrived yesterday, nice quality cloth sails. Will buy from there again, as they list wood decks, deadeyes, blocks, etc.  I will continue getting parts for the kit before I start building as once I start, I like to just keep at it without delays for parts ordering. Am thinking on how the ship will be displayed when done, size-wise on WHERE to put it in the house and type of base. Still leaning towards a sea-scape. Will have to find some crew figures for that. Regards, Pete in RI

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14 hours ago, europapete said:

Neat idea, thank you. Looks like we got the same parts from the same place. Was a bit dissapointed that they do not fit better but oh well, thats why we are modellers lol. I ordered a set of sails from HiSModel and they arrived yesterday, nice quality cloth sails. Will buy from there again, as they list wood decks, deadeyes, blocks, etc.  I will continue getting parts for the kit before I start building as once I start, I like to just keep at it without delays for parts ordering. Am thinking on how the ship will be displayed when done, size-wise on WHERE to put it in the house and type of base. Still leaning towards a sea-scape. Will have to find some crew figures for that. Regards, Pete in RI

The Sails form His Model is good, but I will made my own sails :)
The wooden deck's I will made from pear. 
 

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And so - the whole copper plating is placed. I start tests with light matting, and imitation of rivets.
Pure matt varnish does not look good - I will try a semi-matt.
If it does not fit well - there will be no varnish.

First I riveted to the side - I liked the result so I started on the ship.
I make the rivets with an awl, the points are below 0.1 mm

 

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4 hours ago, europapete said:

That's looking great, well done. Looking forward to see how you do the decks, añd I really should check around to find out where I can buy some wood such as pear. Will probably have to mail order it. 

I cut my pear from parquet, from which I cut the necessary slats.
I also have wild pear stumps in the basement that have been drying for years :)
For me, the pear is the best material on a scale of 1/100.
Very fine structure, and wonderful color after treatment with oil.

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Half of the hull is riveted.
I have about 3500 tiles with 50 rivets on each tile, which makes about 175,000 rivets ...
I slightly corrected the black lines on the bottom row of gun ports.

I have not yet decided whether to partially matte it, because after riveting, the gloss decreases by about 30% ...

 

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Hello again!
To take a break from the rivets, I decided to make a small and precise circular saw. It must be able to cut slats 0.5 mm thick.
The machine is old - I bought it from a man for about $ 40 - it was rusty, but the engine was working.
I lubricated the engine, fixed some other problems, painted it in my favorite red and made the countertop + aluminum guide.
The goal has been achieved and I am satisfied :)

 

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Can anyone help please - it's about the inscription Victory on the back.
In the older photos the letters are more collected, and in the newest ones they are spaced apart.
Which option is correct for the period 1800 - 1809?

 

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I'd love to be able to see the early photos of this build, but for some reasons all photos before 19 October are just shown as links, which when clicked show tiny thumbnails. This happens whether I try and view on my computer, my tablet or my phone. Any reason for this please..can it be fixed?

Thanks in anticipation. 

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That riveting is serious dedication. It is looking fantastic and really sets off the hull. Well done. Are you familiar with Dan's build over on Model Warships? go to Picture Post, then Work in Progress, then "To Victory and Beyond"

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Hello Moarein,

 

great build, I love it 🙂

 

Concerning the nameplate: Nothing is really known.

 

There are several orders that can be dated. The order from 28 June 1771 stated "in letters a foot high, and inclosed in a compartment", Bugler precises "painted in yellow". That was the version originally displayed in Portsmouth until some years ago and being shown on the Heller kit.

 

In 1772 the order was changed into "without compartment in letters as large as the counter would admit", (Laughton: Old Figureheads and Sterns) and was officially kept until the end of the century.

 

In Keppels fleet the names were dropped in 1778 to avoid giving information to the enemy. 

 

This contradict some models and paintings like "Barfleur", 1740, "Royal Oak", 1741 and others where the names were shown much earlier or later. These models give a hint upon letter style used spacing, have a look at the NMM. But this could have been for identifying the model or depicted ship and not following the real ship.

 

What does this mean for the Vic? If one builds the Vic as she is displayed in Portsmouth, I would follow the actual version, it fits better the contemporary evidences.

 

As the ship appeared completely different in many aspects at Trafalgar, I strongly believe, she had no name on her that period. Neither Turner or Livesay or other contemporary sources indicate this, possibly for the reasons Keppel gave.

 

All the best, Daniel

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