Slater Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Could anyone hazard a guess as to the FS colors of the camo scheme? Also, what is the large fairing just below the national insignia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 No idea, but definitely a candidate for best looking AH-64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Doppler big panel under insignia...but fairing looking bigger than UK a/c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 As Mr Rating states, It's the Doppler Fairing, also home to the two RAD Alt Antenna. Looks to me to be the same as the D Model/ AH Mk1 fit, paint job and photo angle making it appear a bit more prominent. AH Mk1 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Troffa said: As Mr Rating states, It's the Doppler Fairing, also home to the two RAD Alt Antenna. Looks to me to be the same as the D Model/ AH Mk1 fit, paint job and photo angle making it appear a bit more prominent. AH Mk1 Apache Ooh team works lol cheers Troffa...forgot about the rad alt ...hows the DB btw? Exactly nowhere id imagine ...still🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Caracal decals makes a sheet with a Qatari scheme: http://www.caracalmodels.com/cd48170.html It may have a recommendation as to what colours the real aircraft are painted. Edited May 21, 2020 by Blimpyboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Interestingly these new build Apaches do not have the upward facing new exhausts. Anyone knows why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, exdraken said: Interestingly these new build Apaches do not have the upward facing new exhausts. Anyone knows why? Just some assumptions here: It's too 'secret' and not an option for export; It's too expensive an option for customers and not cost-effective (this includes special coatings required for rotor blades, etc.); The US is prioritising modifying their own aircraft before releasing for export; It results in a power loss factor that's not liked by customers (I don't know if there are any major engine differences between customers); or All of the above...? Taken from the Airworthiness Release Study Guide (https://studylib.net/doc/9456439/2006d-a19-r5-2012-07-01---air-pirates) 1. "The ASPI kit significantly increases torque required at high speeds, especially at high gross weights and high density altitudes. This increase in torque required will result in diminished torque margins for performing maneuvers, including turns. Attempting to perform maneuvers without adequate torque margins will result in loss of airspeed, altitude, or both." 2. The ASPI kit has not been tested for dive recovery data. There may be a loss in capability to perform dive recovery. 3. Autorotation correction testing for One Engine Inoperable (OEI) has not been performed. Autorotation checks in this mode may result in loss of capability. This Airworthiness stuff is dated 2011/2012, so I can't say if it's still current - maybe it's easier for export customers to learn to fly the standard configuration and then upgrade with ASPI over time, once the US has a larger training base (again, speculation). Presumably, someone with better Apache technical knowledge can help. If you're making one in 1/72, I can thoroughly recommend the Armycast resin set: https://www.armycast.cz/gb/172-resin-sets/118-ah-64d-aspi-upgrade-exhaust.html. Also, a good technical overview can be found here: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a617060.pdf. Edited May 21, 2020 by Blimpyboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Thanks s lot @Blimpyboy ! I build mostly 1/48... I think Hasegawa offers options here! Wonder if Britain and the Netherlands will get it... also wonder if the more powerful RR engines would have been the better choice again ... they wete obviously powerful enough to operate with the Longbow radar in hot and high conditions... Was Agusta Westland/ Leonardo no option to rebuild the WAH-64??? Edited May 21, 2020 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, exdraken said: I build mostly 1/48 Aah, the devil’s scale... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'd like to build a Qatari example but I wonder if it has any antennas or other external peculiarities not found on other variants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalal Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Caracal sheet seems to have the one you are looking for http://www.caracalmodels.com/cd48170.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaracalModels Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) They are bog-standard export AH-64Es with no major external differences from those supplied to Taiwan, India, Indonesia etc. Apart from the ASPI exhaust kit and a few minor details (antennae/ECM gear etc.), they are externally not very different from US helicopters and can be built straight out of the box using the Hasegawa AH-64E kit in 1/48. Edited May 22, 2020 by CaracalModels 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) What makes an E actually an E? Obviously not the exhaust type... Wasn't it originally just a new Block number of the D model? Edited May 25, 2020 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, exdraken said: What makes an E actually an E? Obviously not the exhaust type... Wasn't it originally just a new Block number of the D model? Ooh avionics for a start the D model uses the equivalent of a 486 computer so fairly old ...Engine upgrade and who knows what the grubbers have been up to? 🤔 gotta love an Apache ....but notvas much as a king😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/25/2020 at 10:53 PM, junglierating said: Ooh avionics for a start the D model uses the equivalent of a 486 computer so fairly old ...Engine upgrade and who knows what the grubbers have been up to? 🤔 gotta love an Apache ....but notvas much as a king😃 Ex draken Hope that didnt sound to rude it wasnt meant to be ....i note you liked it so.....er anyway as i said apologises 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) On 5/27/2020 at 5:10 AM, junglierating said: Ex draken Hope that didnt sound to rude it wasnt meant to be ....i note you liked it so.....er anyway as i said apologises 😃 Hi, no issues here! Not at all! probably I was refering to modelling related differences without stating that clearly! but believe me, Sea King wise I am off a lot worse..... Edited May 28, 2020 by exdraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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