Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 This is #10 in my Vermont ANG line. No conversion to be found for the Italeri kit, so a huge number of modifications to be done on my own, including the engine intakes and exhausts. Intakes since they are inaccurate for the EB, and the exhausts because they are almost non-existent and need more than 4mm of depth. Yes, those are McD's straws providing the exhaust chamber. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Cockpit canopy will be closed, but it's transparent enough to need something better underneath than what is given. Basic structure is ok, just saw that a secondary right-hand panel is needed. Decals were cut from Hasegawa F-4 Phantom cockpit decals, a huge improvement. Found it interesting that the cockpit controls cover the sidewalls of the front cockpit, not only the horizontal surfaces. One additional black box for each cockpit at the top left hand. Large rectangular blade antennae which cover this, especially the ventrals, are made from kit sprue heavily thinned, as this will be stronger than making them from Evergreen styrene. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Here's how I did the ALE-2 chaff dispenser pods. Going with a combination of photos and the measurements redone to 1/72 (58.7mm x 6.9mm) I used sections of gunpods from the Hasegawa Weapons Set #2 to make the body and tailcone. After a lot of sanding to shape, the details were added or cut or drilled in. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 This is great work and looks good! I don't think I ever saw these aircraft in person when they were still in service, but I recall seeing snaps of a VT ANG EB-57 at the 1982 Andrews AFB Open House. It was painted overall FS16473 and had DayGlo Orange areas on the wings, tip-tanks, and rear fuselage. Is that going to be your color scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: This is great work and looks good! I don't think I ever saw these aircraft in person when they were still in service, but I recall seeing snaps of a VT ANG EB-57 at the 1982 Andrews AFB Open House. It was painted overall FS16473 and had DayGlo Orange areas on the wings, tip-tanks, and rear fuselage. Is that going to be your color scheme? Yep, that's the scheme! Although by then they were using International Orange. This one will fill a sizeable gap in my VT lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Martin Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy said: Here's how I did the ALE-2 chaff dispenser pods. Going with a combination of photos and the measurements redone to 1/72 (58.7mm x 6.9mm) I used sections of gunpods from the Hasegawa Weapons Set #2 to make the body and tailcone. After a lot of sanding to shape, the details were added or cut or drilled in. Now if only somebody would make resin bits of these..... PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Patrick Martin said: Now if only somebody would make resin bits of these..... PM Funny you should mention...I actually made THREE, am planning on offering the third to a resin/decal specialist....will see.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Now that's what you call making the most of available resources! Wonderfully done. I really like the instrument and console panels in the cockpit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Excellent work. I've had a B-57A and B-57E on the list of builds for ages so your text and mod are very interesting. Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 This looks good already, nice improvisation and skills on show 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) Thank you! Here are the plethora of EB mods, all scratchbuilt. Did the best I could; one of the items under the tail I'm not sure about the shape...did the best I could with the references I could find. Large beacon light above and below made from carving/filing/sanding clear sprue. There's a plug under the nose where I had to drill a hole to add even more weight; I had added some before, but it wasn't enough; it needed a LOT. Edited May 3, 2020 by Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Wow! That's amazing detail. Did these aircraft have a combat mission in the 80s, or were they just for training air defense personnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riksbar Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy said: Thank you! Here are the plethora of EB mods, all scratchbuilt. Did the best I could; one of the items under the tail I'm not sure about the shape...did the best I could with the references I could find. It’s looking good and a really interesting subject. I suspect the configuration was dependent on the individual aircraft. I seem to recall that even the marking between the grey/red areas were unique to each airframe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Wow! That's amazing detail. Did these aircraft have a combat mission in the 80s, or were they just for training air defense personnel? As far as I can ascertain, they were "electronic aggressors," quite a deviation from the unit's historic mission of air defense of the Northeast USA. Apparently they were able to mimic a fair number of bomber approach possibilities, although I don't know the details much beyond that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Painting this beast is going far slower than I'd anticipated....but has the potential to be a real beauty if I keep my focus. Then again, I've got plenty of distractions, being a teacher at the end of the school year in a crisis.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 03/05/2020 at 16:30, Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy said: I had to drill a hole to add even more weight; I had added some before, but it wasn't enough; it needed a LOT. You're not wrong there! I did the Airfix kit in 1.48 and I'd categorise the ballast as "loads"! Rows of 2"steel nails inserted between the cockpit tub and the fuselage sides plus the nose filled. You're doing a great job with this, and the chaff pods are ace 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Nice sharp painting of the orange. Can you explain the mods you did for the intakes, are the Italeri ones incorrect ? Regards Robert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Bahr Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Doing a bang up job so far Andrew! 👍 One of these from the KSANG sits not far from me and it looks like you're getting all the specific mods done pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 Thanks Robert & Jim! Robert, not being a Canberra expert by any stretch, I *think* the intakes are correct for other versions, but the EB has totally different intake structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMrEd Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Looking good so far! FWIW, intakes on the American-built B-57A,B,C, and E models looked like this, with the "two-holer" or just "split" lower intakes: , while the B-57G and possibly some (not all?) of the EB-57B's looked like this: The D and F models were, of course, totally different. None of the 1/72 kits that I've seen personally have these intakes correct on the AMERICAN VERSIONS; they all depict the British engines of the original Canberra design. Ed Edited May 16, 2020 by TheRealMrEd added info 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 After a day of researching the walkways, and then an entire evening of masking, I sprayed the flat black and the gloss black, then going back over the flat black walkways with dark gray. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Decaling was a nightmare...I've really got to stop choosing subjects for which there are no available decals! It took all day, using whatever I was able, but here's what I scavenged from: -Wolfpak decals (EB-57 from 72-024 "Arctic Air Command," Vermont-specific F-102 markings from 72-072) -Serial number lettering from Repliscale USAF letters/numbers sheet, combined with numbers from Wolfpak EB-57 markings -Hasegawa kit decals: ANG badge, outstanding unit ribbon -Superscale: F-4 and F-102 stencilling/labelling -Italeri B-57 kit decals: engine striping 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Very nice subject. Great work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew D Jolly Rogers guy Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thanks Smudge! Spent several tedious days poring over every photo of Vermont's EB's I could in order to figure out more of the stencilling. Pretty much nothing available right now in 1/72, so I tried to match what I saw with Superscale F-4 and F-102 stencils/markings. Got reasonably close, enough to make the airframe appear "busy" and mostly accurate. All improvised. Yes, the "NO STEP" stencils were cut into two so the "NO" could be positioned over the "STEP" instead of in-line with it. Bomb bay striping (thin black stripe) was from Hasegawa kit F-4 walkway line decals. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Red Sox Fan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Wow—this is awesome—I remember these aircraft growing up in VT—also remember speaking with and growing up around crews and maintainers who transitioned from F-102s to EB-57s to F-4s and then F-16s—there are even a few still around who came out to see the first F-35s. Anyway, your spectacular build is spot on—I will be using it a lot when I attempt my own B-57 to EB-57 conversion—will be hard to come close—I really appreciate what you did with the antenna farm, 3 hole intakes and custom chaff dispensers. Only thought I had that might be of interest/use is I thought the actual EB-57s had an orange or red tail supports/stand that would hang off the back of the tail (believe the Crew Chiefs removed before the aircrews preflight) I believe the EB-57 at the VTANG has it still on (I am no longer local otherwise I would take a picture)—anyway, given the amount of detail you have you probably already knew about that or I am off. Bravo—beyond the obvious stellar craftsmanship, this a great trip down memory lane for me—thank you Edited May 22, 2020 by VT Red Sox Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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