Jump to content

Catalina PBY-5A - Airfix 1/72


CedB

Recommended Posts

 

Nice work on the guns Ced, looking forward to seeing you beat the floats into submission!

 

     Stay safe          Roger

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, CedB said:

Check the port/starboard we should be OK.

That's what my crew said to me last time we were allowed to take the Harbour Patrol launch out.

 

Martian the Mariner 👽

 

  • Haha 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9 May 2020 at 10:37 AM, CedB said:

Sounds like I've committed to 'floats down' eh? I think so, and it should be 'fun'

It will be, if you hang it over the bath so it looks like it's coming in to land.

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 hours ago, perdu said:

This is a bloodthirsty old bugger isn't it   :)

 

As you know it is always good to give Ced, thank you for your blood mate

 

👍

Thanks Bill :) Hopefully you won't need my blood but your thanks are appreciated nonetheless!

22 hours ago, Hamden said:

 

Nice work on the guns Ced, looking forward to seeing you beat the floats into submission!

 

     Stay safe          Roger

Thanks Roger - hope you're staying safe too :) 

20 hours ago, Martian said:
20 hours ago, Martian said:
  23 hours ago, CedB said:

Check the port/starboard we should be OK.

That's what my crew said to me last time we were allowed to take the Harbour Patrol launch out.

 

Martian the Mariner 👽

 

Thanks Martian :D Tried to quote my quote so that your quote made sense but got a double 'Martian said'. Ho hum…

17 hours ago, Cookenbacher said:

Wow, that's quite the arsenal Ced!

Thanks Cookie - not as good as 50cals obviously… :) 

8 hours ago, The Spadgent said:

Guns are great. “Great guns!”

*sorry.

 

Floats are looking the part too. Handy of them to put little notes on for you like that, do you have to sand them off though? 
 

Johnny

Thanks Johnny :) Don't worry, the notes are on the inside, thank goodness. I've just noticed that I've put the supports in the wrong wings, but I hope it doesn't matter…

59 minutes ago, Beard said:

It will be, if you hang it over the bath so it looks like it's coming in to land.

 

:rofl2: Thanks Simon!

 

 

Guns are finished, apart from the mountings:

 

49877931478_daeac0b3dc_z.jpg

Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr

 

I'm still moving slowly forward with the floats, supports and associated bits.

The instructions would have you insert the ailerons before the end sections but I don't want them to move so I've chopped the hinge off:

 

49877997888_74663d6de3_z.jpg

 

…and glued in the end section, which fits really well:

 

49878533051_fa353bbcfa_z.jpg

 

… on the top. Don't look at the bottom (fnaar!).

 

To make some progress I assembled, sanded and painted the wheels and hubs:

 

49878535621_f8aab68587_z.jpg

 

Mr Hobby 'Tire Black'. I don't think I mixed it enough. Still, I can go over the top with something else and pretend I was 'weathering' the tyres.

  • Like 11
Link to comment
Share on other sites

More work on the floats.

 

There's a nice picture here.

 

I'm not sure that these need too much work - what do we think?

 

49879630146_7ff6b74bfd_z.jpg

 

49879982972_166c6a505f_z.jpg

 

Just for fun - it's gonna be big:

 

49879995127_a73cb23cfb_z.jpg

  • Like 12
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks Bill :) I might clean up / thin the rods a bit and sort out that 'hinge' then, as you say, just the closer rod and internal panels.

 

Windows this morning.

 

I bet this had some frames on it once:

 

49881479188_2760a0b83d_z.jpg

Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr

 

Easily (I hope) sorted with some Filmoplast. Oooh, that means easier masking 👍

 

The windows aren't numbered on the parts tree:

 

49882292617_50ca610b89_z.jpg

 

…but there seem to be one square one and two rectangular ones:

 

49881989311_9ea2499026_z.jpg

 

The holes though are a bit 'vague':

 

49882300227_43be652e5f_z.jpg

 

The clear parts don't really fit anymore now that the plastic's thickened in the old moulds:

 

49881996431_091dca148d_z.jpg

49882307937_59bd445948_z.jpg

 

Ho hum.

How are we feeling about the 'fill with CA and sand' Martian method at the moment? Nervous? Worth a try?

 

The kit gun supports look OK for the ceiling and have been fitted:

 

49882247397_8c0fe92863_z.jpg

 

The gunners look a bit exposed:

 

49882249247_1ceb34cc35_z.jpg

 

…until the bubbles are dry fitted:

 

49881940006_7af96b961e_z.jpg

 

 

  • Like 13
Link to comment
Share on other sites

47 minutes ago, CedB said:

How are we feeling about the 'fill with CA and sand' Martian method at the moment? Nervous? Worth a try?

I would: thin down the inner side around the window openings (I bet you have plenty of tools for that :D ), glue in a piece of acetate, protect with Aqua Gloss, mask. But that's me, YMMV :) 

 

Ciao

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It looks like you’ve got a double whammy on the window front there aced: the window apertures look like they’ve softened at the corners and part way along the sides due to mould wear and the windows themselves have lost definition around the edge flanges.  I’ve found with some older kits that trimming the flanges off, or nearly so, can improve fit, but that you can also spend several (un)happy hours trying to shake them out of an assembled fuselage and the rescuing them from the carpet monster.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, giemme said:

I would: thin down the inner side around the window openings (I bet you have plenty of tools for that :D ), glue in a piece of acetate, protect with Aqua Gloss, mask. But that's me, YMMV :) 

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio - I have the tools (of course) but not the patience! Still waiting for you to bottle yours :) 

4 hours ago, stever219 said:

It looks like you’ve got a double whammy on the window front there aced: the window apertures look like they’ve softened at the corners and part way along the sides due to mould wear and the windows themselves have lost definition around the edge flanges.  I’ve found with some older kits that trimming the flanges off, or nearly so, can improve fit, but that you can also spend several (un)happy hours trying to shake them out of an assembled fuselage and the rescuing them from the carpet monster.

Thanks Steve - for the tip and the warning! :D 

 

 

I remembered that I had some Krystal Klear that I don't use and thought 'Aha, I can use that up!'.

Then I decided to experiment a bit:

 

49883248212_fc0b96a1fe_z.jpg

Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr

 

I use Clearfix to make windows as it's easy to use and is, um, clear:

 

49882946611_ee6c3e2263_z.jpg

 

The Krystal Klear isn't clear (or indeed Klear) when you apply it:

 

49882414738_7b7e5abc26_z.jpg

 

…so we'll have to wait and look later.

 

The BluFixx was easiest for this job as the UV lamp dries it very quickly:

 

49882413938_e67901bed8_z.jpg

 

I think I'll use that on the others if the Krystal isn't as good.

 

Of course the BluFixx will only work if there's something behind it whereas the other two can be used to 'create' windows. I know you can mask ClearFix too (if you're brave) but, of course, it's best to do the windows at the end.

 

We'll see later which method wins and gets used on the other side.

  • Like 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, CedB said:

…but there seem to be one square one and two rectangular ones:

 

what's the betting that the two rectangulars are different sizes and neither of them fit?

 

 

5 hours ago, CedB said:

The holes though are a bit 'vague':

 

ah... you beat me to it.

 

 

5 hours ago, CedB said:

The gunners look a bit exposed:

 

isn't that why you issued them with Granny blankets around their legs to keep them warm?

 

 

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, CedB said:

Ho hum.

How are we feeling about the 'fill with CA and sand' Martian method at the moment? Nervous? Worth a try?

NO NO AND THRICE NO

 

Just saying...

P1010266.jpg

 

Taken many moons ago

 

Even today it is not my  proudest window, nor its brothers in Bilvedere

P1010420.jpg

 

THIS is the best yet

 

 

Just saying...

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, stever219 said:

I’ve found with some older kits that trimming the flanges off, or nearly so, can improve fit, but that you can also spend several (un)happy hours trying to shake them out of an assembled fuselage and the rescuing them from the carpet monster.

Ive done that and then made internal brackets out of plastic strip so they cant fall in. 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, CedB said:

Still waiting for you to bottle yours :)

I'll bring along some, next time I come to England :)

Your solutions look excellent anyway :clap:

 

Ciao

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Your window should sand back and polish up Bill. The frosting should only be on the surface.

 

Martian 👽

  • Like 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sadly not Martian, this fogging went deep into the cyano layer

 

Which my sources tell me is nearly as inaccessible as the Heaviside's one

 

I live in hope that polishing again with the recently acquired number one polish will help, hope does however fade...

 

😕😱😟😞😦

  • Sad 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Martian said:

Your window should sand back and polish up Bill. The frosting should only be on the surface.

I had the same problem on my Hudson. It has been suggested that I was using the wrong sort of superglue? But something caused deep frosting. 
 

Sorry Ced, continental drift...

 

Regards,

Adrian

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks hendie :D 

 

Thanks Giorgio - the bottle of patience will be appreciated - can I ask for a big one please? :D 

 

Thanks Bill, Dennis, Adrian and Martian for contributing to the 'filling windows' experiment - interesting! 

Martian please let us know how you get on and, can I ask, how long did you leave the CA to 'cure' before starting to sand?

 

 

Here are my windows tonight.

 

BluFixx:

 

49884531766_0eb09dc4ff_z.jpg

 

Filled the gap and clear - I think the scratches are on the back.

 

Krystal Klear:

 

49884006498_5c1b32a1c7_z.jpg

 

Beautifully clear but it's shrunk back and not filled the frame, even though I was filled before it dried.

 

ClearFix:

 

49884533226_15c86ed4f8_z.jpg

 

Uh oh. I've not had this bubble problem when using it in 'empty frames' and it is thicker than the Krystal so I should have watched more closely. I've popped the bubbles and put some Krystal on it to, hopefully, get rid of the bubbles. We shall see!

 

To be honest, Krystal and ClearFix are both designed to be used in empty frames, wiped around the edges and drawn across as a film with a cocktail stick.

Both then shrink to provide a thin, tight window.

Krystal says windows up to 1/4" but I've done much bigger windows with the ClearFix, which is thicker.

 

Given that only the BluFixx filled the frames too I think I'll us that for the other side.

We shall see which takes masking better too, later.

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

No problem Ced. I use accelerator on the glue and start the sanding and polishing after about five minutes.

 

Martian 👽

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...