FlyingSpanner Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 So it’s time to drag this back out of the weeds. I ordered the Italeri horse drawn Breda 20mm set from Lucky Model back in April when I started this whole thing, but still no sign of it. I finally gave up and recently ordered the Tamiya/Italeri LRDG Chevrolet and trailed Breda so I could get a bit closer to finishing this build. I used the metal barrel from the Aber etch set, but not much else It’s a fiddly little assembly, and it looks like it’ll be delicate when reassembling after paint. At least it’s progress 🙂 Does anyone know whether the Italian ammo box/ready use locker would have been used, or would it have been an allied type? Cheers Lewis 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 12:58, FlyingSpanner said: So what happened to the 1.4mm spaced CA glued net? Well it was a total failure really. I used a thicker CA gel on the bigger spaced proof of concept net, but that was too imprecise for the much finer joints, it just spanned the square of the net and looked terrible. I used Zap thin CA instead but it’s so thin it soaked right into the length of the thread. When it was cut from the jig I was left with a rigid mesh Thanks for this. I was looking for a way to make 1/48 scale flight deck netting for the diorama base for a Wasp helicopter (see my WIP over in aircraft). I was going to try to find some net curtaining (need ~2mm spacing) but it's all a bit fancy so this could be the solution I need. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingSpanner Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 If you’re trying to make rigid netting at that same thread pitch I would seriously just go with gauze and impregnate/soak it with thin CA to make it rigid. Building one from scratch the way I did is laborious and almost too delicate to use. Perhaps buy a cheap sieve and cut the netting out of that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Nice clean job on the Breda. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 08:19, FlyingSpanner said: If you’re trying to make rigid netting at that same thread pitch I would seriously just go with gauze and impregnate/soak it with thin CA to make it rigid. Building one from scratch the way I did is laborious and almost too delicate to use. Perhaps buy a cheap sieve and cut the netting out of that? Thanks for the advice. I think a sieve would be too fine - I'm ideally looking at about 2 mm spacing. Where did you get your gauze from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingSpanner Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 The gauze came from a first aid kit I took out of scrap German armoured vehicle in 2012, I imagine it’s fairly generic, put I can post you some if you want? The problem with gauze, and the reason I suggest impregnating it with CA or similar, is that it’s a fairly loose weave, so the strands are free to move relative to each other. A bit of care getting even spacing, and then “sticking” it together when I hand painted it seemed to do the job for me, but my usage is in the background, rolled up, whereas yours is very much on show, so it might not be adequately regular 🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Sorry for not responding sooner. I ended up using embroidery mesh for mine which gave just about the right spacing and was really easy to work. Very stiff though, especially when painted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alun Gallie Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Great build, would love to see an update. New to group but been dabbling with models on and off for 35 years (small scale armour, naval and helicopters predominantly) I have just picked up this kit and about the start building as MTB 82 from the Med in early 1942. She appears to have been fitted with a captured Breda 20/65. I have picked up the Italeri horse drawn kits and have a couple of questions, hope its ok to throw them here ? Those that have used this kit, did you assemble as version a or b - difference appears to be in angle/curve of predictive sight frame and I am leaning towards a from the pictures I have been able to find. Thoughts ? Secondly it appears kit includes an unmentioned (in instructions) deck mount but looking at height above deck it would put gun base seems to be taller than what was used - I am thinking of just cutting down to an appropriate height but interested to hear what other that have used this kit have done. In past I have used a online modelling diary to help maintain my motivation - would people be happy to see another in progress on this kit ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Alun Gallie said: New to group but been dabbling with models on and off for 35 years (small scale armour, naval and helicopters predominantly) In past I have used a online modelling diary to help maintain my motivation - would people be happy to see another in progress on this kit ? Welcome Alun. Sorry I can't answer your technical questions as not a coastal forces expert but I'm sure someone will be able to answer - there are lots on here who specialise in that genre. But I think I speak for everyone when I say that we'd love to see another build documented. Just start a new thread in Work in Progress and good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) I hope Lewis is well, he hasn't posted on this board for quite some time. Alun, it's the B version of the Italeri kit you want. As for the deck mount see Al's wonderful Vosper model : http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/mrc2013/pages/a017.shtml Two IWM pics probably showing MTB 61 which had been turned into a gun boat by mounting three Breda guns. WITH THE MTB'S ON PATROL IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. MARCH 1943.. © IWM (A 17655) IWM Non Commercial License WITH THE MTB'S ON PATROL IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. MARCH 1943.. © IWM (A 17656) IWM Non Commercial License Edit: On second thought Al's deck mount appears to be sitting a bit too high. I have some other period pics of Breda guns on Vospers but none show the mount clearly . Some more pics: Regards, Arjan Edited January 24, 2021 by Arjan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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