mirageiv Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, My entry for this GB will be the Revell Tornado IDS built as a Marineflieger Tornado of MFG2 during the late 80's. The base kit extras from this, The goal is something like this, I quite fancy a sharp fresh paint job, these did get heavily weathered later where the grey and green colours become almost one but not so much in the timeframe I plan on building. Some extras here, I also have some Eduard Kormorans somewhere to make a fully loaded model. Thanks for looking, David Edited May 3, 2020 by mirageiv 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Good luck with the build. I like the colour scheme you’ve chosen - Tornadoes looked a lot better in the 80s and 90s before the all turned grey and boring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 This looks like a good project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Really glad you decided to do this one, great to have a tornado in this GB. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Nice project! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) On 4/27/2020 at 10:11 PM, zebra said: Good luck with the build. I like the colour scheme you’ve chosen - Tornadoes looked a lot better in the 80s and 90s before the all turned grey and boring. Agreed! German Tornados had the best camo schemes imho, I just wish somebody would cover them properly in decals! From reading about this kit quite a bit in preparation and getting some build tips from fellow members, apparently it can be a bit of a pain in construction. Whilst I haven't found it too bad you definitely need to do plenty of test fitting and removal/modification of lots of locating lugs to get things lined up I've found, goes together quite well though! There are plenty of little inaccuracies dotted around and I'll try to correct or improve some of them. First up the nose. Revell for some reason made the incorrect length in the nose cone, it should extend back to the panel line behind the cone, filling the seam would sort out the shape in profile form, but when you angle the model you can see the panel behind the nose isn't circular and leaves an odd kink in profile. I guess you could build up the profile with filler here with the associated shrinkage problems but more importantly it will be harder to get a round nose if you do this. So I decided to cut off the panel behind the cone, glue it to the cone and then will blend and shape a proper round cone of the correct length, then join and blend in the fuselage behind this. I don't think Revell quite got this area behind the nose right either (it looks too square) so maybe this will improve things, winging it though! The odd kink at a better angle, I'm leaving that to set up to avoid any shrinkage and will blend it all in. Marineflieger Tornados seemingly always had the wings at 45 deg sweep when parked up so I closed up all the flaps and slats. I thought it would be quicker to close up all the flaps and slats also but it turned out to take ages to get a nice result, lots of test fitting and stretched sprue/cyano (top) to get a cleaner wing, Doing this gave some quite thick trailing edges so these were thinned quite a lot, top as the kit provides and bottom thinned out, finished Another problem to sort out in the kit, there isn't much anhedral in the wings to I tried to impart some more. I angled down the pivot points and sanded some of the hinge mechanism to facilitate the extra anhedral, Then the corresponding locator was bent to match, I'm not sure exactly what the anhedral angle is but I used this picture: I still don't think I have quite enough but it is close enough for me, trying to add any more became difficult due to the design of the kit here.. I'll be using intake covers btw which saves lots of trouble on this kit. As I thinned the trailing edges of the wings considerably, the resin insert wing seals by BM member Shaun didn't fit so good anyone, they are designed for min sweep and flaps/slats out so this wasn't surprising. Instead I used the kit wing seals and sanded some folds into the material. After checking quite a few photos they seemed to vary from very folded to completely flat so I just copied some I saw, Nice and tight with the trailing edges, they need a little blending but I'm real happy with them, After that was sorted I glued the wings at 45 degrees sweep then ignored the exact build method in the instructions and built the rear fuselage up as recommended by fellow BM member Sebastian. I thinned the sides of the intake tunnels near where the exterior intakes sides attach a significant amount which seemed to help greatly with the fit here. Lots of test fitting and removal/mod of locating lugs gave a pretty decent fit, not Tamiya but not bad at all. The black blobs are black surfacer taking care of some sink marks. I'll let this cure out before I clean things up in places with Zap a gap. To double check this method works I test fitted the forward fuselage It fitted really well! I'll now start on the cockpit and forward areas. Thanks for looking, David Edited May 8, 2020 by mirageiv 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reini Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 @mirageiv Hahen has plenty of Tornado decals https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.mobile/de_DE/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=42302059&PageSize=5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 15 hours ago, reini said: @mirageiv Hahen has plenty of Tornado decals https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.mobile/de_DE/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=42302059&PageSize=5 But not enough! I am missing 4 tone green standard camo decals ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) On 5/7/2020 at 9:27 PM, reini said: @mirageiv Hahen has plenty of Tornado decals https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.mobile/de_DE/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=42302059&PageSize=5 Cheers Reini! I have a few sheets already by Hahen and tbh I've never been overly satisfied with them (for example the MFG2 Tornado badge in their sheet is wrong shape) but maybe I will still get some if needed. I'm planning on combing the Wingman and Heller ones to get the best result, we will see, the Heller ones are actually ok after testing a few but quite a few are out of register so I'll pic and choose. 9 hours ago, exdraken said: But not enough! I am missing 4 tone green standard camo decals ... Hopefully Wingman will follow through with the rest of the schemes, why they choose the less interesting grey schemes for their first release I do not understand! Cheers, David Edited May 8, 2020 by mirageiv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Off to a great start on this one David, can't wait to see what you come up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, mirageiv said: Hopefully Wingman will follow through with the rest of the schemes, Wingman? Very quiet lately.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Impressive work. Think this is becoming the 'go-to' thread for advice on how to get the best from the Revell kit. Also couldn't help remembering how everyone criticised the old Italeri kit for not having deployed flaps and now the last few projects I've seen involve everyone trying to close these features on the Revell kit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, exdraken said: Wingman? Very quiet lately.... In general or with the Tornado decals? I read the initial release of Tornado decals didn't sell overly well and maybe further releases have been shelved....again I'd assume grey Tornado sheets wouldn't sell as well as the cooler 80's schemes so still not sure why they released those first! Maybe Caracal decals might lend a hand, I might message the owner to suggest doing some as there still is a big gap here for someone to fill. 19 minutes ago, Col. said: Impressive work. Think this is becoming the 'go-to' thread for advice on how to get the best from the Revell kit. Also couldn't help remembering how everyone criticised the old Italeri kit for not having deployed flaps and now the last few projects I've seen involve everyone trying to close these features on the Revell kit Cheers Col! I don't know about the go to thread...just trying to semi-sort (defo winging it) some of the problems with the kit with a lot of help from builds like General Melchetts GR1 . So far it is pretty good but it does have a whole host of little errors here and there that add up imho....I'll see how much I can fix and still try get it done in time. Yep 'the point' of this kit is probs the flaps/slats but I thought it would be quicker to meet the deadline closing them all up, definitely was not the case! David Edited May 9, 2020 by mirageiv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Cookenbacher said: Off to a great start on this one David, can't wait to see what you come up with. Cheers Cookie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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