rwoolven76 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 All, I'm after a 1:48 kit of an OOB Vietnam era Wild Weasel to sit alongside my Tamiya Sandy Skyraider. I've had a look around but there are so many F4 kits about I can't for the life of me work out which one is the right one and are not a total pig to build. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 A Wild weasel aircraft in Vietnam would be the F-105G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwoolven76 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jabba said: A Wild weasel aircraft in Vietnam would be the F-105G. Whoops. Thanks jabba. Feeling pretty stupid now... Ok. Putting my stupidity to one side for a moment, any suggestions about a 105 wild weasel in 1:48 or a vietnam era phantom in the same scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifer54 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 There are Republic F-105G Wild weasel kits from Revell, Monogram and Hasegawa, according to Scalemates. As for availability, who knows? . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskey Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Actually a Wild Weasel aircraft from Vietnam would be either an F-100F, an F-105F, an F-105G, or an F-4C. All need to have the Weasel specific antenna and some black boxes in the cockpit (depending on how detailed you want to get) however. The only OOB kits would be the F-105G but for an F-105F it would not take more than probably 10 minutes worth of effort to make some extra antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Go with the monogram F-105G great kit. If you wanted to go Navy then you could do an A-6B, but not out of the box. Some good info here on the WW F-4C https://phantomphacts.blogspot.com/2013/10/usaf-f-4-wild-weasel-before-f-4g.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmat Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Here is an 80th TFS F-4C (WW) stationed at Yokota AB. Not mentioned in the above article is that the F-4C (WW) appeared in PACAF with the external mods but before they were mission capable. I believe that may be part of the reason why they were spread around to various squadrons at Yokota and Misawa. They would also lack the two pimples on the nose 'IR' housing and the rear parachute housing door. That would come later. Credit geta-o jp. site. Note 574 UP 67th TFS out of Misawa is another F-4C (WW). http://geta-o.jp/USMIL/F/F-4/F-4C/F-4C.htm Here is a 67th TFS F-4C (WW) in 1972. Credit manhhai Flicker account. https://www.flickr.com/photos/13476480@N07/37612450015 The RHAW pimples are a post Viet Nam War mod. Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Don’t forget the Navy! I know A-4s, A-6s and A-7s performed Iron Hand missions, but I think only the A-6 was modified to be a dedicated Wild Weasel-like platform. There’s a load of useful information here: http://rickmorganbooks.com/a-6b-standard-arm.html and http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2016/01/grumman-6b-iron-hand.html?m=1 And for general interest: http://steeljawscribe.com/2008/10/02/flightdeck-friday-iron-hand-intruders Edited April 26, 2020 by Blimpyboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Blimpyboy said: Don’t forget the Navy! I know A-4s, A-6s and A-7s performed Iron Hand missions, but I think only the A-6 was modified to be a dedicated Wild Weasel-like platform. There’s a load of useful information here: http://rickmorganbooks.com/a-6b-standard-arm.html Interesting read, thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Muzz said: Interesting read, thanks for posting. No worries, happy to help! I bought this A-6B conversion set a few years ago - it's definitely worth getting if you want a dedicated Navy Wild Weasel: http://www.obscureco.com/product_pages/OBS72002/OBS72002.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 SEAD aircraft are one of my interests and I'm slowly working through modelling an example of each type and operator - currently in the semi-completed pile is a 1/32 Revell Tornado ECR. I've also tried to make some 1/48 A-6B components, using the Obscureco resin 1/72 set and article photos (see above) as a guide - I just need some time to push on and finish them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Here is a A-6B radome being made. Click on the pic to go to the Flickr page for more images. Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 RoG repopped the 1/48th Monogram F-105F/G a few years back with a great decal sheet: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-04504-f-105g-wild-weasel--102279 Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwoolven76 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 Thanks for the feedback and comments everyone. This is my first time back to BM in some years and I'm pleased to see people here are as awesome as I remember. I'm now at something of a dilemma. I've recently acquired a SEA paint set to use with my Skyraider and I was intending to then use it on a Phantom or, once I realised it was an option, a Thud, but the Intruder was one of my first aviation loves after watching "Flight of the Intruder" as a kid (hence also my love of the A1). I guess I'll have to save some pennies and get one of each... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, rwoolven76 said: I guess I'll have to save some pennies and get one of each... Welcome to the Dark Side. 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 If I'm not mistaken, the Hasegawa 1/48 F-105 Wild Weasel is a Monogram rebox, much as their F-102 is. If you're going to be building examples of all the Wild Weasels, note that the 35th at George AFB had some F-4C Weasels assigned to the 21st TFS, as best I recall, used in the training role. They had white fin caps and white GA tail codes. George's F-4Gs arrived with WW tail codes and their F-105 Weasels had the GA tail code. After one veteran F-105 crew chief (five tours in Viet Nam working F-105s) complained that the F-4Gs hadn't earned that WW tail code and the F-105s most certainly had, the F-105s got WW tail codes rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom3r Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I don't see F-105G from Hobby Boss being mentioned. Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffin Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On the A-6 Wild Weasel be aware that there are 3 versions: A-6B Mod 0. 10 a/c modified and could carry Standard ARM (AGM-78 Mod 0). Served in vietnam spread across multiple squadrons . A-6B Mod 0/1 A6B Mod 0 modified to carry AGM-68 Mod 1 and became A-6B Mod 0/1 A-6B Mod 1. This has the the sensors on the nose as per Obscureco nose. 3 a/c produced. Only assigned to VA-34 and VA-35. Did not serve in vietnam good reference is Warbird Tech vol 33 by Dennis R Jenkins George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDGboy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Two Bobs did a sheet for early Phantom Weasels in both 1/72 & 1/48, with great instructions on mods - https://www.scalemates.com/kits/twobobs-aviation-graphics-48-114-f-4c--245379 Edited April 30, 2020 by DDGboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) On 4/28/2020 at 10:32 PM, boffin said: On the A-6 Wild Weasel be aware that there are 3 versions: A-6B Mod 0. 10 a/c modified and could carry Standard ARM (AGM-78 Mod 0). Served in vietnam spread across multiple squadrons . A-6B Mod 0/1 A6B Mod 0 modified to carry AGM-68 Mod 1 and became A-6B Mod 0/1 A-6B Mod 1. This has the the sensors on the nose as per Obscureco nose. 3 a/c produced. Only assigned to VA-34 and VA-35. Did not serve in vietnam good reference is Warbird Tech vol 33 by Dennis R Jenkins George I agree, it is one of the best references I can find regarding the A-6 - I really should start going through the library again, it's rather sad when one forgets what one has in the collection! Wolfpack decals also makes 1/72 and 1/48 sets for a variety of Wild Weasels: http://www.millcreekconsultants.com/WolfPak_home.html Edited April 30, 2020 by Blimpyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 28/04/2020 at 13:32, boffin said: On the A-6 Wild Weasel be aware that there are 3 versions: A-6B Mod 0. 10 a/c modified and could carry Standard ARM (AGM-78 Mod 0). Served in vietnam spread across multiple squadrons . A-6B Mod 0/1 A6B Mod 0 modified to carry AGM-68 Mod 1 and became A-6B Mod 0/1 A-6B Mod 1. This has the the sensors on the nose as per Obscureco nose. 3 a/c produced. Only assigned to VA-34 and VA-35. Did not serve in vietnam good reference is Warbird Tech vol 33 by Dennis R Jenkins George There were 5 aircraft with the Mod 1 conversion. 3 aircraft were converted to PAT/ARM https://rickmorganbooks.com/a-6b-standard-arm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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