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Thoughts on the Trumpeter Wellington Accuracy

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Hi Brits...

 

I have been disappointed in a few of the Trumpeter/Hobby Boss kits as far as accuracy...  I was an airplane designer at McDonnell Douglas...  So Wing Fillets on Whirlwinds and flat gun hatches on FW190D9's drive me nuts.

 

I do have the Wellington kit...  But am late to this party...  The kit looks nice, but am I missing any issues with accuracy on this kit?  Thanks in advance for your help...

 

 

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The only comments I am aware of are the representation of the fabric over the geodesic frame. Some feel it is overdone (but this is subjective) and can be reduced with a light sanding.

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3 minutes ago, Tail-Dragon said:

and can be reduced with a light sanding.

but needs attacking with an angle grinder for anything approaching accuracy :whistle:

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The cockpit in the model has dual controls which is bogus for most aircraft that you'd want to depict. The cockpit floor therefore needs to be hacked up to show the correct access to the bomb aimer's position. No compass on the instrument panel and the IP itself is.....weird, being a clear part with no realistic way to show the instrument faces. The bomb bays are rudimentary and look much better with a PE upgrade set and the wheel wells could use work too. I got part way through my detailed build and set it aside so there may be other areas that I've not encountered yet. Must get to it again some day!

 

 

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The major shape problem (in addition to the detail issues and the fabric representation mentioned above) which definitely affects the 1/72nd kits (not sure about the 1/48th) is that the wheels are too narrow - they look like motorbike wheels! This is not a simple fix as the undercarriage legs, all the wheel well parts, nacelle apertures, wheel bay doors and possibly even the nacelles are too narrow as well! Trying to fix this has put me off building my 1/72nd Trumpeter Wellington - all the more so now I have the Airfix which is far superior. I'll probably build the Trumpeter wheels up!

 

I have often wondered whether it would be possible to do a kitbash of the Airfix and Trumpeter kits to achieve an accurate Wellington III - you would need the engines, cowlings and exhausts from the Trumpeter kit plus rear turret and sundry other bits - with the nacelles, undercarriage wings and fuselage of the Airfix.

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Which scale?

Recently completed the 1/48 rendition. As has been said, the fabric effect seems a little overdone, but acceptable. No shortage of detail, lots of it unseen. If you fit the closed bomb doors, you will save yourself about 300 parts. Compares favourably with the Brooklands example. You might consider using Master brass gun barrels and fit them last, otherwise you will break them off, repeatedly.

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My response relates to the 1/48 kit. Maybe I jumped the gun.

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10 hours ago, Vulcanicity said:

The major shape problem (in addition to the detail issues and the fabric representation mentioned above) which definitely affects the 1/72nd kits (not sure about the 1/48th) is that the wheels are too narrow - they look like motorbike wheels! This is not a simple fix as the undercarriage legs, all the wheel well parts, nacelle apertures, wheel bay doors and possibly even the nacelles are too narrow as well! Trying to fix this has put me off building my 1/72nd Trumpeter Wellington - all the more so now I have the Airfix which is far superior. I'll probably build the Trumpeter wheels up!

 

I have often wondered whether it would be possible to do a kitbash of the Airfix and Trumpeter kits to achieve an accurate Wellington III - you would need the engines, cowlings and exhausts from the Trumpeter kit plus rear turret and sundry other bits - with the nacelles, undercarriage wings and fuselage of the Airfix.

I am not a big fan of the plastic Airfix uses for their kits but in this case... an exception might be made.

 

I've read similar comments regarding the engine nacelles and wheels.  Like you, I've given thought to mating the new Airfix kit's wings to the Trumpeter kit.  In fact, I've gone so far as to pick up a few sets of the sprues needed to do this (there was an eBay seller in the US who was offering the sprues separately).  To get all the needed pieces for the wings, engines, control surface and u/c, you need damn near all the sprues from the kit (save for fuselage and clear parts).  It cost me almost as much as if I'd have bought the kit complete, but at least I'll have only the left over Trumpeter kit parts if I end up doing this.   In the end, I think I saved myself about $7 - $8 going this route.

 

I did a dry fit of the wing to fuselage and it looks promising.  In comparing how the Airfix wing will sit against the fuselage, it looked quite good in particular when I compared it to a picture of the real thing.  This is for building a Mk.Ic.

 

I believe one could take the same approach for a Mk.III, just substitute the Trumpeter engines (at least that's my plan).  I would be inclined to use the Airfix props for such a conversion.  Trumpeter's just do not look right.

 

To push this dream a little further, if this Mk.Ic Trumpeter/Airfix hybrid works and does not prove to be more headache than it's worth, I want to also do an RCAF Mk.X.  My plan will be to use the Trumpeter engine nacelles again and substitute the Trumpeter props for a set from the old Matchbox Wellington kit.  Matchbox's props are heads better than what Trumpeter provides.  Sadly it means trashing a Matchbox kit just for a set of props.  Oh well...  such are the joys of modelling!

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Edited by Wm Blecky

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7 hours ago, Wm Blecky said:

 

I did a dry fit of the wing to fuselage and it looks promising.  In comparing how the Airfix wing will sit against the fuselage, it looked quite good in particular when I compared it to a picture of the real thing.  This is for building a Mk.Ic.

 

sorry I'm a little confused - I completely understand why in 1/72 Airfix parts might improve the Trumpeter Mk.III and other versions, but Airfix already makes a very nice Mk.Ic - why throw Trumpeter in the mix there?

 

About the 1/48 Wellington - main points have been made: slightly overdone surface details, the dual controls, narrow lower nacelles and a narrow landing gear, and some people say that the cockpit window isn't deep enough and it does look a little off when you compare it to photos.

 

But I would say that the issues of Trumpeter's 1/48 Wellington are similar to the issues of Tamiya's 1/48 Mosquito and people build that all the time. So I think Trumpeter's Wellingtons will make you cringe as much as you would with any other model kit with flaws and compromises.

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12 hours ago, elger said:

sorry I'm a little confused - I completely understand why in 1/72 Airfix parts might improve the Trumpeter Mk.III and other versions, but Airfix already makes a very nice Mk.Ic - why throw Trumpeter in the mix there?

 

About the 1/48 Wellington - main points have been made: slightly overdone surface details, the dual controls, narrow lower nacelles and a narrow landing gear, and some people say that the cockpit window isn't deep enough and it does look a little off when you compare it to photos.

 

But I would say that the issues of Trumpeter's 1/48 Wellington are similar to the issues of Tamiya's 1/48 Mosquito and people build that all the time. So I think Trumpeter's Wellingtons will make you cringe as much as you would with any other model kit with flaws and compromises.

I would think that had you read what I had to say, my very first sentence would have answered your question.  That aside, in terms of consistency, whether doing a Mk.I, a Mk.III or Mk.X, all would have the same appearance.

Edited by Wm Blecky

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15 minutes ago, Wm Blecky said:

I would think that had you read what I had to say, my very first sentence would have answered your question. 

I don't appreciate the tone of your reply. I don't think such passive aggression is necessary when someone asks a question for clarification. It's not exactly high stakes here, and we're just trying to exchange information and help each other learn.

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Calm down, calm down. :undecided:  Take it as a general response and move on to gleaning the information for your build,

 

Mike

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