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MILES... in western desert... (MAGISTER and HAWK)


pierre66

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Hello, my question relates to the MILES MAGISTER and in particular to those present in Egypt in 1940 and in 1942.

 

On September 30, 1940, Sergeant G Boutitie (France), and Flight Lieutenant P J F Jacquier (France) were injured in an aircraft accident, on the Magister R1973. They are part of the "2 French Fighter Flight"

“Sergeant G Boutitie (France), Flight Lieutenant P J F Jacquier (France): injured; aircraft accident, Magister R1973, 2 French Fighter Flight, 30 September 1940. »AIR81 / 3566

There is something that bothers me. A well-documented French book indicates that "MAGISTER 1973 (BLUE) is assigned to FFF2".

What can this BLUE correspond to? The color of the plane? fully "AZURE BLUE"?

 

This element is disturbing because in CIEL DE SABLE, by Claude RAOUL DUVAL tells that in May 1942, at the Fighter Group ALSACE, the Commander GRELIER (FAFL MISSION in Cairo) arrives for an important brieffing with a Miles HAWK (probably a MAGISTER) completely BLUE too, and "Bearer of cockade". It is not specified English or French.

This color allows jokes to French pilots who present the planes to the "officers present", General VALIN, Colonel CARTIER. After the row of Hurries from Alsace, they signal the high stealth quality of Cdt Grelier's blue plane.

 

"Full text translation"

 

NOTA : We are at FUKA in February 1942. General VALIN, Colonel CARTIER, Commander GRELER are there to announce to the pilots who are volunteers for « GC Normandy » their transfer.

 

“The atmosphere is likely to darken we have, as usual resort to the prank.

Captain GRELIER came to see us aboard his plane, a small MILES HAWK, a low-wing touring monoplane, painted pretty in sky blue and adorned with a tricolor cockade.

With Pouliquen's complicity, we have ours tired hurricane inspected, then we stop in front of the MILES.

"You see here, my colonel, the latest addition to English technology: blue plane, therefore invisible, tiny, therefore manoeuvrable ... the Luftwaffe has only to be careful! "

Colonel CARTIER, turns around the device, asks questions.

GRELIER, delighted, sends us great complicit winks! "

 

Is it possible to overall blue Miles in western desert? And of course ... TWO!

 

Thanks for all

 

pierre

 

Ans sorry or th ebad inglish with help of google trad...

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For the HAWK... It is a Miles M.IIa HAWK Whitney Straight c/n 508 ex F-AREQ, from Aéroclub de Syrie et du Liban

 

Possibly painted in AZURE BLUE!!

 

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but, what about possibiliy of Blue Magister???

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It's a shame they didn't use colour-printed postcards ........

http://lapsite.org/the-aero-club-of-syria-and-lebanon-between-the-two-wars/

It looks as though the club only had the one aircraft in Damascus - a Farman F.402 - and was dormant between the outbreak of war and 1957 (or 1961, depending on how you read it).

It looks like an interesting topic - more research needed @pierre66 ...!

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Frends, for the HAWK... we know it was repainted in "light blue"... for free french service!

 

Now my problem in about the MAGISTER R1973 of the FREE FRENCH FLIGHT in 40... Is it possible with the painting rules for RAF in Egypt a BLUE MAGISTER??

 

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NOTA: For the aeroclub oh Damascus, it was there a few planes

F-AOPG Caudron C.272/5 Luciole

F-ANFU Farman F.402

F-AREQ Miles M.2A Hawk  (the Grelier plane in western desert)

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