Pierpaolo Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Hi! A few days ago I started this model. if I complete it before the end of the lockdown it will be the third. I've never been so productive! Tamiya 1/48 F-84G Thunderjet with Aires Cockpit and Gun Bay 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Hello Pierpaolo, beautiful work with the cockpit! Have you decided which markings you will use? Cheers, Antti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Thank you Antti My fav is FS-271 (the boxart) which I have a couple of photos but I also like FS-460 which I can't find the photo of and FS-454 which is very well documented I also have the decals for FS-868 and FS-994 but they are a very early F-84G's that doesn't have auxiliary intakes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan_Farsight Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I really like the rendition of the jet as shown on the boxart, quite fetching! great work on the interior details! do you apply a primer layer before going to paint the resin parts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Kushan_Farsight said: I really like the rendition of the jet as shown on the boxart, quite fetching! great work on the interior details! do you apply a primer layer before going to paint the resin parts? Thank you I am a little unruly, I never use primer 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hi all! Little progress on my Thunderjet , Fuselage closed and wings glued 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Your build is coming along beautifully. It appears the aftermarket additions slotted right in with no issues. Am I correct? The cockpit is beautiful. You have a work of art in the making! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SAT69 said: Your build is coming along beautifully. It appears the aftermarket additions slotted right in with no issues. Am I correct? The cockpit is beautiful. You have a work of art in the making! Thank You I was surprised at how well the detail sets fit. I only had to remove a little plastic to get them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Really great progress, i have the same kit in my stash and get appetite now to start the build through your inspiration. Also to praise is your nice photography . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 @Pierpaolo, FS-460 was an F-86G-15RE that was attached to the 8th FBS of the 49th FBG and was shot down by AA fire on 3/27/53. See the link for the loss report. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/86297 Here is a good color photo of another 8th FBS F-84G from the 49th FBG; closest I could come to your FS-460. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-8th-fbs49th-fbg-one-half-left-front-view-of-a-republic-f-84e-thunderjet-129295930.html We have a few members who have a lot more Korean War aircraft knowledge and references than I, so hopefully one of them can be of more assistance, I found plenty of good color photos of other F-84G's in the same colors and markings, but not FS-460. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Thank You! @Harry Callahan like many other Tamiya kits this F-84 is excellent I spend part of my modelling time in photographs because I think that a good photo of my work offers those who see it a better chance to criticize or advise. My photos are only resized and sometimes made more or less bright, I do not retouch also because I am not capable of it @72modeler Thank You very much for your interest I have that photo of FS-613 (s/n 51-613) in an osprey volume but unfortunately that's an F-84E. In the same volume I have 2 photos of FS-466 (s/n 51-10466 which is also on the cover of Squadron Signal F-48 Thunderjet in action) which is from the same production batch as FS-460. It has 2 black/3 yellow chevrons on the tip tanks instead of 3black/4 yellow but otherwise is very similar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Pierpaolo said: unfortunately that's an F-84E I'm not so sure about FS-460 being an F-84E. In the accident report I posted and on the Forgotten Jets website, it is listed as being an F-84G-16RE, and it's not impossible, but not likely that both sources would have the wrong variant and block number. If you look at that color photo again in the Osprey Korean War F-84 Units monograph, you can see what appears to be -460 as the buzz number on the nose, but look at the serial on the tail, 51-10386, which does not match the buzz number, but is correct for an F-84G-16RE that also served with the 8th FBS, 49th FBG! That threw me off, as I at first thought that I had found your F-84 and the pilot's name, until I saw the serial on the fin was not correct and didn't match the buzz number. Now I'm wondering why the heck the mis-match of numbers, as 51-10460 is clearly a G, as was 51-10386! With all the punishment the FB jets took from AA fire and accidents, it was fairly common for the tail section of one aircraft to be mated to the center/nose section of another, thus possibly the mis-match between the buzz number and serial. Is this a great hobby, or what? Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hi Than you again 1 hour ago, 72modeler said: I'm not so sure about FS-460 being an F-84E I was referring to FS-613 (the link you gave me) when I wrote that it was a F-84E 13 hours ago, 72modeler said: Here is a good color photo of another 8th FBS F-84G from the 49th FBG; closest I could come to your FS-460. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-8th-fbs49th-fbg-one-half-left-front-view-of-a-republic-f-84e-thunderjet-129295930.html According with Joe Baugher usaf serial site http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1951.html , FS-460 (s/n 51-10460) was certainly a F-84G-16-RE Could you tell me where you found the photo with the numbers that don't match? Is this the book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Pierpaolo said: Could you tell me where you found the photo with the numbers that don't match? Is this the book? It was not in the Osprey book, but there was the same photo that showed more of the rear fuselage with the tail number 51-10386 and the partial buzz number visible, xx-x60 on the forward fuselage, but no black/yellow chevrons on the fin and rudder on page 36 of the Squadron Signal 1224 F-84 Thunderjet In Action, by Larry Davis. The name 'Anne Belle' was painted in black, outlined in yellow at an angle below the cockpit. At a glance, I thought the -60 buzz number was 51-10460, but then I looked at the serial. The caption below the photo stated: 'Lt. Randy Pressley, a pilot in the 8th FBS, kneels next to a 1,000 lb bomb specially painted to mark his 100th mission in Korea during December, 1952. The 8th FBS was based at Taegu (K-2) at the time' The bomb was painted yellow and had 'Anne' 'Merks' and 'Merks 100th' painted in black, and 'Merry Christmas' painted in red. Confusing, as if this was indeed Pressley's F-84, why was the bomb lettered 'Merks 100th and not Pressley's 100th? If that Thunderjet could only talk! Mike If it's any consolation, FS-460 and FS-613A have always been favorites of mine...something about those black/yellow chevrons! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Not only does this build look like it's going to be amazing, that Lego-built jig is a great idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 72modeler said: It was not in the Osprey book, but there was the same photo that showed more of the rear fuselage with the tail number 51-10386 and the partial buzz number visible, xx-x60 on the forward fuselage, but no black/yellow chevrons on the fin and rudder on page 36 of the Squadron Signal 1224 F-84 Thunderjet In Action, by Larry Davis. The name 'Anne Belle' was painted in black, outlined in yellow at an angle below the cockpit. At a glance, I thought the -60 buzz number was 51-10460, but then I looked at the serial. The caption below the photo stated: 'Lt. Randy Pressley, a pilot in the 8th FBS, kneels next to a 1,000 lb bomb specially painted to mark his 100th mission in Korea during December, 1952. The 8th FBS was based at Taegu (K-2) at the time' The bomb was painted yellow and had 'Anne' 'Merks' and 'Merks 100th' painted in black, and 'Merry Christmas' painted in red. Confusing, as if this was indeed Pressley's F-84, why was the bomb lettered 'Merks 100th and not Pressley's 100th? If that Thunderjet could only talk! Mike If it's any consolation, FS-460 and FS-613A have always been favorites of mine...something about those black/yellow chevrons! I understand. On the Osprey book there is the same photo but the number on the tail is not visible because the photo is cropped, the caption says that the pilot was Lt Richard Merkling I like the black/yellow chevrons too and I think Tamiya must have taken the profile somewhere, just have to understand where! 1 hour ago, jackroadkill said: Not only does this build look like it's going to be amazing, that Lego-built jig is a great idea. Thank You The Lego-built jig has been my signature for at least 12 years.. I like it because it is easily adaptable to any situation 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Pierpaolo, that Lego stand for keeping the bottles upright is simply ingenious. Thank you for the tip. Instead of a new kit I must now buy some Legos😉 Fell in love with that Tomcat also... Cheers, Antti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Pierpaolo said: The Lego-built jig has been my signature for at least 12 years.. I like it because it is easily adaptable to any situation Such a simple but great idea - one I may borrow occasionally, if you don't mind. Mostly I've been balancing my build on paint tinlets, corks etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Antti_K said: Pierpaolo, that Lego stand for keeping the bottles upright is simply ingenious. Thank you for the tip. Instead of a new kit I must now buy some Legos😉 Fell in love with that Tomcat also... Cheers, Antti Thank you, my problem is that in addition to the kits I also buy Legos (VW beetle, London Bus , Apollo 11 lunar lander , Saturn V , the ISS etc etc..) 1 hour ago, jackroadkill said: Such a simple but great idea - one I may borrow occasionally, if you don't mind. Mostly I've been balancing my build on paint tinlets, corks etc. No problem with this, we are here to share experience and informations Edited April 23, 2020 by Pierpaolo correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Pierpaulo, That P-47D is a knockout! The 1/48 Hasegawa kit? I also love the Lego jigs and alignment structures. I use them for bases when vacuforming parts, but hadn't thought of using them for jigs and keeping bottles from being knocked over! So simple it's brilliant! What you posted makes more sense, as that pretty much confirms that the F-84 was Merkling's, not Pressley's- also explains the lettering on the bomb. (One of these days, I'm going to realize that captions many times aren't much more accurate than color profiles!) Can't wait to see your Thunderjet finished- have you decided what to hang under it? I would imagine the Tamiya kit comes with plenty of ordnance and the RATO bottles, does it not? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Thank You again @72modeler Yes, that P-47D is from Hasegawa , i've built it for the P-47 STGB in 2018 I will only put two 1000 lbs bombs (in the kit there are only these or 2 tanks) and leave the gun bay open I have already assembled the RATO but I will decide whether to mount them on the model Edited April 23, 2020 by Pierpaolo addiction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crane Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I've been putting that kit off over fear of trying to airbrush metallic paints. Maybe you can inspire me 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 it's just my second attempt with a completely metallic finish. I will try to do my best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 Hi Canopy masking a paintjob! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierpaolo Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Hi all! I chose the subject and placed the decals I chose FS-454 "Four Queens" because among the 3 options it was the most documented and was operational in Korea FS-460 needed the painting of the front ring in with a yellow that I don't have (and that I can't buy) and that should have matched with that of the decals 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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