Dansk Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Pat have you rubbed and buffed yet? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Thats a very personal question Paul! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, Dansk said: Pat have you rubbed and buffed yet? He may not be able to here you Dansk buffing away right now! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Let’s see what results he gets. He did say he was going to rub and buff and let us know what happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Dansk said: Let’s see what results he gets. He did say he was going to rub and buff and let us know what happens Let's hope he is not buffing away vigorously when his better half enters the mancave - there might be more trouble in the offing....🤦♀️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hi everyone 13 hours ago, Dansk said: Pat have you rubbed and buffed yet? Hi Paul Not yet, I've been using good old Humbrol 11, before trying rubbing in the buff ! 13 hours ago, modelling minion said: Thats a very personal question Paul! Too blooming right, but relax I'm not taking any selfie photos whilst doing it ! 12 hours ago, stevej60 said: He may not be able to here you Dansk buffing away right now! Bluffing definitely, but buffing not yet I'm afraid 12 hours ago, Dansk said: Let’s see what results he gets. He did say he was going to rub and buff and let us know what happens I plan on buffing sections of the aircraft to try and get differences in the overall silver colour, well that's the idea anyway ! 1 hour ago, Jinxman said: Let's hope he is not buffing away vigorously when his better half enters the mancave - there might be more trouble in the offing....🤦♀️ I'm hoping to demonstrate my buffing technique to Mrs Jockney before doing it in the man cave to avoid that very issue, however there is a danger of this being used for me to do more domestic items that involve a simular cleaning action so it might yet back fire ! To return to the build Some progress to report First coat of silver on fuselage and wings, tailplanes being added. There is many variations on the colour scheme for this aircraft as it evolved / was repaired I hope if mine isn't exactly to everyone's expectations I will be forgiven. And yes the wheel turn and undercarriage retracts, very important when we were building this kit back in the day, so I had to make it fully functional So this is progress so far, spinning props as well ! Couple of issues on the horizon, masking the upper and ball turrets as the clear parts seem to have no raised detail on them, plus the cockpit clear part fit is an absolute shocker, the side windows are inside the aircraft so the clear part isn't wide enough. I will post another picture, any ideas on a resolution ? Cheers Pat 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 More on the cockpit clear part challenge So this side nicely lined up View from the front, clearly the part isn't wide enough Resulting in this ! Any ideas appreciated cheers Pat 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Oh dear Pat, that really is a very bad fit isn't it, I'm not sure how to overcome it either. Your B-17 is looking very good otherwise, I particularly like the worn olive drab on the wing, very effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Not sure there is an easy answer there Pat. Not without a lot of work and a possible moulding of a new part. I cant recall how I dealt with that problem 50 years ago now. An excess of Britfix glue I suspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Dear Pat If you have a razor saw and you are feeling brave, saw the canopy in half along the centre line and pack it out with plastic card. The actual B-17 transparent sections are not on the centre line. In the roof there is a sperate window on each side. One above the pilots head, the other above the co-pilot. I like the OD weathered wing you did, how did you get thar effect? regards Toby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: Any ideas appreciated Hi Pat, Just checked one of my part-builts awaiting disassembly, and the part fits ok. 🥴 How about cutting two of the same piece slightly off centre. Join the two big pieces carefully with Bondic, (other cheaper versions are available), polish, & hey presto! The B17 has a fairly prominent piece of framing down the centre so a bit of paint should cover the join? I have a spare off the part built if you want to go for it - I'll be forming some new ones when I get around to the re-builds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Thanks Guys I like the idea of cutting the clear part down the middle but, I'll need to "grow a pair" to find the courage to do so ! I think I have a scrap B-17, make unknown this might provide a replacement canopy. The wing was done as an experiment, first wing painted with Humbrol 11 (what else !) then after drying olive drab acrylic dabbed on in a few random places. Before the paint hardens, use a flat ended dry brush to stipple into the olive drab, this removes chunks of paint onto the end of the dry brush, remove paint and repeat as required. I then went over it with bits of masking tape, stuck down and pulled off removing other bits of paint. This is probably all wrong but as I haven't done it before, I'm happy with my first attempt. Cheers Pat 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: I'm happy with my first attempt. As you should be mate, it is very effective, and as far as I know there is no right or wrong method as whatever works has to be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 So time for an update, scrap B-17 brought in from the garage to offer up its canopy Heres a better look So this looks promising until... Side on it's a different story and will need a lot of work to get it to fit so... Well there's no going back now ! Cheers Pat 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Well done Jockney Thats quite a mismatch in width. Onwards and upwards regards Toby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, JOCKNEY said: Well there's no going back now ! That's the way - show it who's in charge! Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Excellent adaptation Pat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Very nice work Pat, looks like you're getting the better of the canopy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Ok bit of work on the canopy today and some homemade masking Its a bit rough around the edges but it fits, so sand down the top fill the gap and then form a pointed front edge, more later. As I mentioned earlier the clear parts have no detail at all for framing, so I had a go based on some Internet photos on the ball turret, all rivet counters please look away now ! I've painted it tonight so will do a grand unveiling tomorrow it with either be fist pumps or floods of tears ! Cheers Pat 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Fist pumps for sure Pat! Nice job on the ball turret, not an easy masking job even when there are lines to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 Goodness me, apologies for being away, I've started co-hosting the Choppers, Autogyro and VSTOL GB so actual building time has suffered. So masked up the canopy Nearly forgot about the 2 green fuselage stripes so more masking And of course as the wing chevron doesn't come as a decal, yet more masking ! A bit of leakage but no too bad Canopy on but filler required Finally and old tip on not losing bits inside the fuselage, a bit of tape on it allows it to be moved around easily without it dropping in. I learned this lesson the hard way as an apprentice working on a transformer and dropped a spanner in the tank, we had to pump all the oil out with a Castrol tanker then a crane to lift the windings and core out. I always tied a spanner to my wrist with cotton tape after that ! Wings on tomorrow Cheers Pat 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I gave you a haha but I bet it wasn't funny at the time! Nice work on the Fortress and kudos for chopping up your windscreen. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: I always tied a spanner to my wrist with cotton tape after that ! Reminds me of what an older guy at work shouted at me when I was a clumsy apprentice and used to drop tools " you would be no bloody good working on flying boats!" is what I used to get, he used to work on Catalinas during the war. Very nice work on your B-17 mate, some good masking and your cockpit fix has worked a treat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Coming along very nicely, and that fix on the canopy looks fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hi Jockney The yellow tail and green stripes look really good, which paint did you use? regards Toby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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