AlCZ Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I look in newest catalog of Revell and here is a kit of Tornado ASSTA 3.1. - with new parts. What is it ? From sources i understand it is a upgrade of IDS - so - this is identical aircraft as RAF (now retired) Gr.4 ? (With LCD display etc ?) Revell have a photo of actual aircraft in "promo" marking... But this isn´t new program, no ? I hear a German Bundesluftwaffe may their "Tonkas" send to retiring and replacing it by F/A-18E "Super Hornet". (Maybe). So, ASSTA 3.1. Tornado is only prototype with newest avionics ? (LCD replacing analog ? ) I have in my stash Bundeslufwaffe IDS (with ghost marking ) and "Desert Babe" and i wait for potentionaly Gr. 4 re-box from Eduard, so i don´t understand what is ASSTA 3.1 Tornado...(prototype platorm or current operational machines ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-Efka Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 ASSTA 3.1 is (afaik) mainly an electronics update for the Luftwaffe ECRs. Affecting also the rear seat 'workspace'. Is being implemented since end 2015. I have no knowledge how it compares to RAF Tornados though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Some info here: http://rpdefense.over-blog.com/article-1st-flight-of-tornado-production-aircraft-with-assta-3-0-99020958.html & https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2014-08-27/britain-and-germany-are-still-upgrading-tornado I presume the kit will mainly just show the tail decals: Edited April 22, 2020 by Julien no copyright photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 OK, thank you, so i ignored this. Probably have new instrument board with LCD, but demonstrator aircraft isn´t good choice for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Interesting to read in the second link about the upgrade to the Skyshadow pod "Skyshadow2" on RAF GR4's. Did this ever happen? If so I take it there was no external difference to the pod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Revell - 1/48th - ref. 03849 - Tornado ASSTA 3.1 (release September 2020) Konversion mit variantenspezifischen Teilen Source: http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-2020/ Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado Quote (...) Beginning in 2000, German IDS and ECR Tornados received the ASSTA 1 (Avionics System Software Tornado in Ada) upgrade. ASSTA 1 involved a replacement weapons computer, new GPS and Laser Inertial navigation systems.[121] The new computer allowed the integration of the HARM III, HARM 0 Block IV/V and TAURUS KEPD 350 missiles, the Rafael Litening II Laser Designator Pod and GBU-24 Paveway III laser-guided bombs.[122] The ASSTA 2 upgrade began in 2005, primarily consisting of several new digital avionics systems, a new ECM suite and provision for the Taurus cruise missile; these upgrades are to be only applied to 85 Tornados (20 ECRs and 65 IDSs), as the Tornado is in the process of being replaced by the Eurofighter Typhoon.[57][88] The ASSTA 3 upgrade programme, started in 2008, will introduce support for the laser-targeted Joint Direct Attack Munition along with further software changes.[89] In January 2016, the Bild newspaper revealed that the newest upgrade of the ASSTA suite to version 3.1, which includes colour multifunctional LCD screens in place of monochrome CRT displays, is interfering with helmet-mounted night-vision optical displays worn by pilots, rendering German Tornado bombers deployed to Syria useless for night missions.[123][124] The defence ministry admitted that bright cockpit lights could be a distraction for pilots, and disclosed that the solution will be implemented in a few weeks, but denied the need to fly night missions in Syria.[125](...) V.P. Edited April 19, 2020 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzaob Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 So most likely a decal upgrade for the cockpit and those very colourful markings of course? Doubt there would need to be any changes to the plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 11 hours ago, AlCZ said: what is it ? HASSTA LA VISTA, BABY... Yeh, me knows... Sorry, Unc2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Cockpit details here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=260535&page=5 Not sure what the kit will have though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 If the GR4 example is followed, the plastic will be the same as in the IDS with décals for the ASSTA 3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Pete Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 In that kitsreview link it does say Neues Instrumentenbrett, neue Heckantennen, Target Pod . Which suggests a new instrument panel, new spine(?) antennas and target pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The kit will be an IDS, not an ECR unless they provide the fuselarge sensor bulge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Creepy Pete said: In that kitsreview link it does say . Which suggests a new instrument panel, new spine(?) antennas and target pod. The GR4 has the IDS plastic and GR4 instrument panel decals. When you put the latters on the former, the effect is interesting. But technically, it does have a new instrument panel... Cheers, S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume320 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I’m also expecting a set of HARM missiles... Years ago when Tornado test shots were first revealed in Cosford, those were on display. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, guillaume320 said: I’m also expecting a set of HARM missiles... Years ago when Tornado test shots were first revealed in Cosford, those were on display. G Hoping they're better than the Sidewinders... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN-KEH Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 8:07 PM, GTX said: Cockpit details here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=260535&page=5 Not sure what the kit will have though. Interesting to see that a Russian site has the best references for current Tornado cockpits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 - ref. 3849 - Panavia Tornado ASSTA 3.1 https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RV3849 V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Interesting that the forthcoming AASTA kit costs £4.50 more than the forthcoming GR4 kit. Was that the same for the IDS and first GR4 release? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Perhaps there are extra / new parts? It looks like there's a targeting pod on the belly pylons in the picture above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Probably explains it, but I’m not so sure it’s fully justified. Kinetic seem to keep their pricing the same on their series variations like the F-104s. Having said that, £35 for a modern 1:48 scale jet isn’t really anything to complain about. My biggest gripe with Revell is their penchant for only providing garish special scheme decals. Everybody else seems to manage a couple of standard scheme options in their kits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 3:36 PM, Stephen said: Perhaps there are extra / new parts? It looks like there's a targeting pod on the belly pylons in the picture above. The Revell ad in the October Airfix magazine shows the kit advertised with new parts included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Released - https://www.aviationmegastore.com/tornado-assta-31-03849-revell-4009803038490-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=173675 V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 instructions: https://downloads.revell.de/Manuals-Modelkits/03849.pdf this is new afaik no weapons but at least 2 schemes: IRIS-T and GBU-58 would have been great! maybe even Taurus..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 There's a new instrument panel for the rear cockpit according to an in-box review I saw on FB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Stephen said: There's a new instrument panel for the rear cockpit according to an in-box review I saw on FB. You are right, sprue U is new. Contains the pod, the small sensor on the lower nose and these IPs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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