Thunder Models Scammell Tank Transporter

[Redcoat2966]

8 minutes ago, robw_uk said:

that was my thought

Yeah.....my Dragon Kursk Panther came with a set of Modelkasten for £32 and free shipping.......

[robw_uk]

have been doing some research on the trailer and how it was used (great video found). Some things to change/improve

 

1) jack handles weren't in place during travel

 

Jack Handles 1 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

2) The ramp supports had hooks on the chassis

 

Ramp Support Hooks by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

3) The ramps were raised by connecting to the rear of the tank then raised as the tank was winched on

 

Ramp Raising by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

ram rasier hooks by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

the video also showed the cable layout for winching a Grant on (it uses a Hollowman Yoke?  which I have already glued on to the kit but not sure if thats cos the Grant was a heavy bugger so wont sued to the matilda (may see if I can prise off without too much damage but then guess I would need a mounting bracket for the bracket)

 

Yoke by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

[JeroenS]

Hi Rob, I think I found that same video when doing research for my version, a while back. If I remember correctly it was some kind of instruction video for the team doing the work. It had some good images of how things would go together. Plus I liked the narrator's voice and style 🙂 

 

I had some fun scratching some of the stuff shown in the video, maybe this will help you in some way, in 1/35 you'll probably be able to make something more accurate then these small scale items. 

 

[robw_uk]

25 minutes ago, JeroenS said:

Hi Rob, I think I found that same video when doing research for my version, a while back. If I remember correctly it was some kind of instruction video for the team doing the work. It had some good images of how things would go together. Plus I liked the narrator's voice and style 🙂 

 

I had some fun scratching some of the stuff shown in the video, maybe this will help you in some way, in 1/35 you'll probably be able to make something more accurate then these small scale items. 

 

great looking build, assume that is 1/72? The kit comes with the D-bracket BUT calls for it to be glued on which, of course, I did before seeing the video! The second part of the video shows a rescue using the tractor unit only, and this DOESN'T use the bracket. If I can remove from the box OK AND find reference for how it was mounted I may look to use it...

[JeroenS]

35 minutes ago, robw_uk said:

great looking build, assume that is 1/72? The kit comes with the D-bracket BUT calls for it to be glued on which, of course, I did before seeing the video! The second part of the video shows a rescue using the tractor unit only, and this DOESN'T use the bracket. If I can remove from the box OK AND find reference for how it was mounted I may look to use it...

Thanks, it's 1/76, the old Airfix transporter kit. 

 

It looks like they didn't always use a yoke, probably depended on what kind of vehicle was loaded on the transporter. 

 

Maybe these pics are of some help. 

 

 

 

I used this one for the chains at the rear: 

 

 

 

[robw_uk]

thanks... so all the images I have showing how to cable them up use the yoke, and I now have an artists impression of the mount so going to see what happens if I remove form the "box" it is stuck to - if it is bad can always glue it back and abandon that 😉

 

next help - chain... kit comes with (I assume) PE chain to tie down (the chain PE isn't numbered and I cannot see it being used elsewhere but what other scale options do I have?

[JeroenS]

I got some 1/72 scale chain from wee friends, there must be something similar in 1/35 scale

 

https://dnmodels.com/product/metal-tow-chain-135-scale-model/

 

 

[Kris B]

I see we've got the same idea for load. 

[robw_uk]

1 minute ago, Kris B said:

I see we've got the same idea for load. 

just something "right" about it. I have done some fiddly bits this evening, photos tomorrow. But slowly working through the trailer 

[robw_uk]

Some small bits on the underside now added

 

IMG_20200422_071728 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

IMG_20200422_071704 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

2020-04-22_07-23-57 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

[JeroenS]

Just a thought (because this happened to me): I don't know whether the D-rings on the back of the transporter are fixed, but if so, and if you wish to add chains from the back of the transporter leading up to your tank, you should glue them in the "up" position. 

[Bullbasket]

Have a look here Rob. I've got some of their chains and it's good stuff.

http://www.tankworkshop.com/newshop/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=1o311q65oq95d22jd4ai1d5p11&keyword=chain

[geofftrash]

Here is a nice photo of a T34 tied down;

https://imgur.com/a/r6GvOxN

[robw_uk]

28 minutes ago, JeroenS said:

Just a thought (because this happened to me): I don't know whether the D-rings on the back of the transporter are fixed, but if so, and if you wish to add chains from the back of the transporter leading up to your tank, you should glue them in the "up" position. 

nope they move - and yes saw they need to be raised for tie down...

 

and thanks all for info on chains & tie downs

[Ernst]

Nice vehicle with an interesting stance. Good combo with the matilda.

[robw_uk]

Erm, seem to have finished the trailer apart from 1 piece of PE. Still amazed how easily it went together, am sure the tractor unit will need more time but that is awaiting the correct radiator so could be months. Wont paint this until the tractor is done.

 

IMG_20200422_183543 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

IMG_20200422_183536 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

IMG_20200422_183608 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

IMG_20200422_183551 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

 

IMG_20200422_183558 by Robert Worth, on Flickr

[flashlight]

Great work so far, Rob!

 

Have a nice day

Nick

[robw_uk]

right, can't source a replacement radiator grille (Thunder Models have gone quiet and the one on Shapeways would be about 1/4 of the price I paid for the kit) so when this restarts I will build it with a cover to protect from a sandstorm (no evidence but if they covered engine area with blankets when cold why not with tarpaulin to protect from dust)

[APA]

They did indeed use covers. There is an after market kit as well👍

Im folling this as it will be fun comparing how you get on compared to mine 😉

 

BTW I would highly recommend these REME kits. Lots of additional stuff that was used on these beasts. 

 

And these after market wheels since the kit ones are regarded as preyy poor and in accurate although I have seen one pic of them in real life. Still I think they look a bit odd. 

 

 

 

Have fun👍👌

 

A

 

 

 

[robw_uk]

22 minutes ago, APA said:

They did indeed use covers. There is an after market kit as well👍

Im folling this as it will be fun comparing how you get on compared to mine 😉

 

BTW I would highly recommend these REME kits. Lots of additional stuff that was used on these beasts. 

 

And these after market wheels since the kit ones are regarded as preyy poor and in accurate although I have seen one pic of them in real life. Still I think they look a bit odd. 

 

 

 

Have fun👍👌

 

A

 

 

 

thanks for that - funds are scarce at the moment so will make to with OOB/what I already have in stock.

 

Do you have any photos of the "cover" at all - or the aftermarket of which you speak?

[APA]

They are also  Resicast sets: "352396 Scammel update set n°2" for the covered and "352393 Scammell update set No1" for the uncovered radiator plus a few more bits in each.

 

www.resicast.com search "Scammell"

 

 

They do quit a few sets for these kits. It looks from their site that they are agents for Thunder Models so I figure they know what they are working with.

 

A

[FG2Si]

Here's the set with the rad cover. 

 

http://resicast.com/eshop/gb/accessories/373-352396-scammell-update-set-n2.html?search_query=Scammell&results=7

 

Scroll through and there is a pic of the covered rad. 

 

I started my kit last month and got the chassis done but found that the string they give you for the tow cable too short so I've been waiting for some to arrive from Eureka XXL.

 

One mod you may want to consider is for the steering. Perth Military Modelling has an article on how to modify the kit parts. I've done it on my build and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

 

https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/thundermodel/tm35200g01.html

 

Carl

Edited September 17, 2020 by FG2Si
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[robw_uk]

10 hours ago, FG2Si said:

Here's the set with the rad cover. 

 

http://resicast.com/eshop/gb/accessories/373-352396-scammell-update-set-n2.html?search_query=Scammell&results=7

 

Scroll through and there is a pic of the covered rad. 

 

I started my kit last month and got the chassis done but found that the string they give you for the tow cable too short so I've been waiting for some to arrive from Eureka XXL.

 

One mod you may want to consider is for the steering. Perth Military Modelling has an article on how to modify the kit parts. I've done it on my build and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

 

https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/thundermodel/tm35200g01.html

 

Carl

cheers Carl... least I Can hide the radiator (have emailed Thunder to see if they are still shipping the replacements). I will look at the steering. When I looked at the kit originally I found comment on the stowage uner the RHS door - this thread shows how to update it:

 

https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/thundermodel/tm35200g02.html

[FG2Si]

Rob, I forgot about the underside tray as I'd picked up an AM one. 

 

 

It was the first part I made on my build. 

 

Here's where I am on my build. 

 

 

 

Carl

[robw_uk]

An engine... 27 pieces and still a few more (plus some very small PE). I am going to hold off using the radiator as long as I can just in case TM confirm they can get me one (there are enough components I can build up in the cab to give them a few weeks)...