Dave Swindell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Steve D said: Rob, 12 links is actually quite coarse. Below are a few examples from my chain locker stock The brass chains here are ~30 links per inch, the black one is a little less (~24 I think) but very fine and may be better for your model. From memory I got these from a fine scale model railway site, but checking my email, I can't seem to find the order reference, sorry. If you can't source them yourself, let me know what length you need. I buy this stuff for stock so I always have some to hand, I'd be happy to let you have some if it helps Steve Rob is quoting 12 links per centimetre, which is about the same as your 30 links per inch, so no difference really. Kev suggested plaiting 3 strands of cotton, I'd suggest using very fine wire and a four strand square sinnet which gives a better impression of chain. Whether this turns out finer than the chain you already have will depend on how fine the wire is and how tight you can make the sinnet. https://www.animatedknots.com/four-strand-square-sinnet-knot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave Swindell said: Rob is quoting 12 links per centimetre, My mistake, should have read it more carefully. I'm not used to these small scales, only borrowers work that small 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve D said: I'm not used to these small scales I go from one extreme to the other, 1/700 to 1/1! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 15 hours ago, robgizlu said: Approx 12 links per cm Jamie. If you have anything smaller, I'll gladly take it though the paravane chains are glued in place now. Rob That's about the smallest I have too I wouldn't worry about it. All models are impressionistic to a degree and I think your HMS Kent looks splendid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancona Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I think your HMS Kent looks splendid. I'll second that, you have managed to hit that sweet spot, with a really (and I mean really) clean build but with a subtle weathered look, that Port side shot of the boat boom really does look like a much larger scale model (try 1;144), and as for your Walrus...........a jewel ! Inspirational stuff David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 3:50 PM, longshanks said: Your work is so clean and precise, I'm sure you were a eye surgeon in another life Well given what he does in this life, it's just as well he's precise 😱 ! Have to agree with everything said Rob. Such incredible attention to precise, clean and tidy detail. This is looking magnificent. It's all so good but I do especially like the cables on the crane! Top job all round. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Far from chain, but could be used for steel cable. Two lengths copper wire twisted. 0.26 diameter. I may be able to go finer than this. Keep on keeping on! Bob 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Thanks for the comments Gents. You are all very kind!! (I seem to find it hard to use quotes across BM pages, so excuse their absence firs off) Kev - I've tried plaiting wire to get smaller chain effect - it never seems to come out right - not tried thread. The pay off with chain is that it hangs naturally and on this occasion given their position - that won the day. I have a bit of a thing about gravity in modelling - things have to "hang" to look natural, which is why I was pleased with the boat ropes - (pleased to hear that this practice is still extant - logical really) Jamie nailed it for me... 7 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: All models are impressionistic to a degree ........... Beefy - if Mrs B had said yest to trying out the Acupuncture needles........that might have just landed you iin some bother As to the template for the bow - I can always send you the one I used. 9 hours ago, Dave Swindell said: Rob is quoting 12 links per centimetre, which is about the same as your 30 links per inch, so no difference really. Kev suggested plaiting 3 strands of cotton, I'd suggest using very fine wire and a four strand square sinnet which gives a better impression of chain. Whether this turns out finer than the chain you already have will depend on how fine the wire is and how tight you can make the sinnet. https://www.animatedknots.com/four-strand-square-sinnet-knot Thanks for that link Dave - interesting. 9 hours ago, Steve D said: I'm not used to these small scales, only borrowers work that small Made me laugh You large scale modellers dont know how good you have it!! 5 hours ago, Dancona said: I'll second that, you have managed to hit that sweet spot, with a really (and I mean really) clean build but with a subtle weathered look, that Port side shot of the boat boom really does look like a much larger scale model (try 1;144), and as for your Walrus...........a jewel ! Inspirational stuff David Thanks David - after seeing your Victorious that means a lot! 5 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Well given what he does in this life, it's just as well he's precise 😱 ! Terry Yes quite Thanks Terry. 4 hours ago, Bobs_Buckles said: Far from chain, but could be used for steel cable. Two lengths copper wire twisted. 0.26 diameter. I may be able to go finer than this. Keep on keeping on! Bob Bob that looks excellent - next time I order any chance of me ordering some of that? Thanks again all Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hi Rob, Echoing what everyone else has said, your attention to the little details has resulted in a terrific looking build. You're certainly setting the bar higher for the rest of us to try to achieve. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnWS said: Echoing what everyone else has said, your attention to the little details has resulted in a terrific looking build. You're certainly setting the bar higher for the rest of us to try to achieve. Just what @JohnWS and everyone else has said, the myriad of tine details that you have added to your model have elevated it from an excellent display piece to a first class replica of a working warship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Quote Bob that looks excellent - next time I order any chance of me ordering some of that? Thanks again all Rob Not a problem, Rob. 6 inch lengths sound OK? Can go longer if needed. Cheers, Bob 🤠 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 HMS Kent now in RFI. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Very enjoyable build Rob, it’s been a great guide for mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 5:13 PM, RGL said: Very enjoyable build Rob, it’s been a great guide for mine. Thanks RGL Well I guess it's over half way through this project with HMS Kent sitting in RFI And here are the sisters with berwick soon tobe planted in the Styrofoam I've got to that stage where an awful lot of work goes in with very little to show so here's a summary of current component progress This particular launch is not available from Micromster and derives from kit plastic hull and WEM etch cabin - didn't tun out too bad I mentioned before that the hangaer structure is almost a model in it's own right. Sitting atop are the 36" searchlights from micromaster - things of sheer beauty! The boat nearest is a Micromaster 30 ft gig, Ough states, "The gig was gnerally called the "Blue boat"as it was painted dark blue in the Home Fleet and pale blue in the Mediterranean Fleet, and it was kept in a condition of extreme smartness, evenmore so than the rest of those carried, whcih were also maintained at a high stnadard for it is an old saying in the Royal Navy that "a ship is known by her boats" and when away from the ship her boats'crews carry the credit fo the ship with them". A nice touch from the WEM set is this Walrus trolley that was used to carry th aircraft in to the hanger And one query for you all - the following pic shows the HACS mk IV on the right and the HACS Mk III on the left thatI've just received fom Mm. The III is substantially smaller. References indicate that the C class cruisers definitly carried HACS III and this is what it was bought for - Kent I'm certain carried HACS IV with the Type 285 radar - I can't find any specific mention as to whether Berwick would use III or IV in 1940. Can anyonoe throw light on this?? More soon Thanks for looking Rob 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Amazing detail Rob, it's going to be a significant model (that's a very good thing in my world) when complete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Classy young man, very classy! Got the makings of your own Marina now 😎 Avoid the numpties and stay safe Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Fantastic work Rob. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Absolutely superb work there Rob. Such meticulous, clean and tidy work. Another masterclass in 1/350 modelling. Terry PS. So should have been Telford today and tomorrow. Such a shame we didn't get to have our regular catch up this year. Same goes to my other BM colleagues. Roll on the next one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Absolutely superb Rob. If mine turns out looking even half as good as this I will be chuffed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Rob, what can I say that everyone hasn't already said? Another beautiful build in progress. I luv the small boats' detail & the way you've finished them. On 07/11/2020 at 09:08, robgizlu said: ... it is an old saying in the Royal Navy that "a ship is known by her boats" and when away from the ship her boats' crews carry the credit fo the ship with them". ... I couldn't agree more. I can't wait to see Berwick completed. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parvis Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Flipping through my book of superlatives... ...hold on... ...still looking... ....looking... ...nope, I'm all out. 😀 Looks great Rob. Matt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Thanks Fellas 9 hours ago, Matt Parvis said: Flipping through my book of superlatives... ...hold on... ...still looking... ....looking... ...nope, I'm all out. 😀 Looks great Rob. Matt Aw Shucks Now Mr P - when are we going to see you Blog a build? I miss that quick wit and repartee Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parvis Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Rob, if my wit seems quick it is only because my typing is slow. Gives my wit time to get up to speed. Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The launches are looking great Berwick looks near completion as well not long now 👍 Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearAndRaggedStaff Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 BBC4 now, Lost Films of WW2 , S1E2 - HMS KENT filmed from and by George Blundell(?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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