longshanks Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, beefy66 said: masterpiece on the horizon Alright for you to say but from here it looks like the earth is starting to tilt on its axis Avoid the numpties and stay safe Kev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, longshanks said: the earth is starting to tilt on its axis Does it not do that already or am I thinking of where @Martian comes from Stay Safe beefy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Stupid boy Pike 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Lovely looking cranes, just got to finish them off with fitting the cables Stuart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Fantastic looking cranes Rob, and very pleased to see another Atlantic models beauty lining up in the chocks! Terry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) I imagine the removal of the starboard crane jib was a late war weight saving measure. Also curious as to what's peeking above the bridge structure (Another ships gun director?) Tom Edited October 11, 2020 by Modelholic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 21 hours ago, longshanks said: Alright for you to say but from here it looks like the earth is starting to tilt on its axis Avoid the numpties and stay safe Kev ermmm, yes (I think) 18 hours ago, Courageous said: Lovely looking cranes, just got to finish them off with fitting the cables Stuart He's never satisfied.......... 18 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Fantastic looking cranes Rob, and very pleased to see another Atlantic models beauty lining up in the chocks! Terry Thanks Terry - the moulding looks exemplary and I'm looking ofrwards to kick-off! 9 hours ago, Modelholic said: I imagine the removal of the starboard crane jib was a late war weight saving measure. Also curious as to what's peeking above the bridge structure (Another ships gun director?) Tom Tom, the picture was taken at Devonport in March 1941 before her refit as evidenced by the single (non tripod) mast and the absence of radar. I suspect the jib was removed for maintenance as it reappears in post refit pics. Without it she would have been unable to launch her Stbd side boats. I agree, definitely another ship ahead as evidenced by the mast and gun director. Rob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 22 hours ago, beefy66 said: I see another masterpiece on the horizon with Griffon those cranes look fantastic 👍 Stay Safe beefy You old smoothie! R 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 Well another Forum update and at the risk of sounding extremely narcissistic, I regret the loss of being able to see how often threads are viewed above 1000. Increments of 0.1k now prevail. Tant pis I've talked alot about Micromaster in this thread, so it's time to give a mention to https://blackcatmodels.eu/en/ who are releasing an increasing number of 1/350 Royal Navy items. I've been in awe of Crisp's @Ex-FAAWAFU build of the 8 Barrel Pom pom which was incredibly intricate. I've gone for the altogether easier and more convenient option ... The quality of resin 3D moulding is the equal of Micromaster and delivery (from I believe Nantes France) is 6 times quicker Now how nice is that! The Mizen mast is now stepped and the qud 0.5 in guns are now evident in all their lovely detail The 20mmOerlikons are fitted to B and X turrets Railings have now been fitted all around and I used these from the Eduard set. The books tend to say use thinned white PVA glue to attach but it never seems to work well for me and FWIW, I much prefer CA glue having first positioned the railings using strips of Tamyia masking tape to hold in place And this pic is especially for Stuart @Courageous And here's some more Ship's boats painting I've glazed them with Kristal Klear I've been holding off doing the Walrus - slightly intimidated by the whole task especially the canopy glazing The kit supplied decals are Type A roundels which i don't think would have fitted a 1941 time frame so I found some suitable Type B roundels from an old Model Decal set The canopy glazing is crude but will do Thanks for looking - end in sight and next post is likely to wrap up HMS Kent Rob 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, robgizlu said: ... - end in sight and next post is likely to wrap up HMS Kent ... You've been busy Rob. Your attention to the little details makes those small assemblies look like they're a much larger scale in the photos. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, robgizlu said: at the risk of sounding extremely narcissistic, I regret the loss of being able to see how often threads are viewed above 1000. Increments of 0.1k now prevail. Tant pis As a daffodil I completely agree with you As to your vessel what can I say . Your work is so clean and precise, I'm sure you were a eye surgeon in another life The boats and Walrus ..... I wait impatiently for the next update Avoid the numpties and stay safe Kev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 hours ago, robgizlu said: And this pic is especially for Stuart Now they look exquisite now they're finished. As others have said, very impressive and detailed work. Love the look of those resin bits. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 So, you're not going to rig the Walrus? Thought it would be a given after the cranes. Joking aside the detail in here is incredible & fantastic. Impressed doesn't begin to cover it. Steve 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 hours ago, robgizlu said: I've gone for the altogether easier and more convenient option ... Cheated you mean Now stop that and get a full brass set out and build 6 for each side whether you need them or not that is your detention young lad But they do look seriously impressive and the rigging on the cranes i think stuart should build the next ones for you as an apology Stay Safe beefy 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Thanks Fellas. On 10/16/2020 at 7:46 PM, stevehnz said: So, you're not going to rig the Walrus? Thought it would be a given after the cranes. Joking aside the detail in here is incredible & fantastic. Impressed doesn't begin to cover it. Steve Steve - at some before building it I did seriously consider doing it On 10/16/2020 at 8:13 PM, beefy66 said: Cheated you mean Now stop that and get a full brass set out and build 6 for each side whether you need them or not that is your detention young lad Stay Safe beefy Give a young lad a break Contradicting my last post about wrapping up - I'd undeer-estimated how much left there was to do Kent had odd tubes arising from the cross-tree bits - (go back and look at the photos if you don't believe me ) so once again I invoke Bob "Von Buckle" (https://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/) who does micto tubes in different lenghts tha you cn use to "sheath" thread. Et voila!!! Fraught to do but makes a big visual difference. Here's the original pic to compare... Next - I fitted the paravane chains that are quite prominent in war pics. They were used to "fly" the paravane and thanks to that excellent Gentleman @longshanks I have diagrams that indicate that in windsurfing terms these chains we'd call uphaul/downhauls. This is positively the thinnest chain I can source and is still a bit overscale but Hey - it's a model, and once again they add to the visual impact In a similar vein of seeking as much realistic detail as possible Norman Ough writes that the 32 ft Cutters, "when they are turned outboard in harbour there is always a long line of heavy rope, called the boat rope, leading from the bows of the cutters to bollards far up on the forecastle to which they are lead through small fairleads". Interestingly the available pics of 1941 Kent under way with the cutters inboard show these boat lines were still kept on. I riginally thought I'd use fiine thread waxed to straighten it. That idea failed to survive first contact so I resorted to some 0.1mm copper wire I had courtesy of Modelling tools which will straighten if you run it through your fingers. Sticking it down is another matter requiring CA accelerator It hangs naturally enough and paints up using my Go-to rope colour Lifecolor Hemp, and her's the Starboard side with the boat boom secured - which itself was am nor exercise in dexterity And here's the Norman Ough book, which I've found to be an incredibly useful reference book - couldn't do without it!!! So with the end of the Kent build really truly near - I'd left the Type 281 radar to the last. There are sets included in Peter Halls White Ensign PE set which he'd have you construct from 4 pieces I happened to have the Mk1 Design Royal Navy set which is a little hard to come by but rather splendid. The 281 offerings in this come as a one piece and just require some careful folding. This is also where the Type 284 radar came from earlier in the build. Should have Kent final details done by day's end - back to work tomorrow so RFI W/E earliest Thanks for looking, the likes and the very kind comments Rob 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, robgizlu said: called the boat rope, leading from the bows of the cutters to bollards far up on the forecastle to which they are lead through small fairleads" I've read that also, I believed they were to allow a boat to be deployed as a rescue boat while the vessel still had some way on her in case of a man overboard. I fitted one on HMS Medea (WW1 destroyer) Excellent fine detail work there Rob, that scale is too small for me to even consider 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Simply stunning My one critique would be the paravane chains. A bit cavalier for the master. Try plaiting three strands of cotton thread, I think it will look more scale like..... HTH Avoid the numpties.... Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Looking stunning there Rob and thanks to you and @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies I have been getting a few things dropped off by the postman Bob's Buckles and 1.5mm tube as well as some acupuncture needles missus B gave me a funny look when I asked if she wanted to find out if they worked and of course some plastic and brass sheet from scale link will have to have another read on how you did the template for the bow Stay Safe beefy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 What size are the links on that paravane chain, roughly, Rob? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: What size are the links on that paravane chain, roughly, Rob? Approx 12 links per cm Jamie. If you have anything smaller, I'll gladly take it though the paravane chains are glued in place now. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Steve D said: I've read that also, I believed they were to allow a boat to be deployed as a rescue boat while the vessel still had some way on her in case of a man overboard. That’s exactly what they were for - and they remained in use (with evolving boats, obvs) until the 90s at least; maybe still today for all I know 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Great work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickrd Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: That’s exactly what they were for - and they remained in use (with evolving boats, obvs) until the 90s at least; maybe still today for all I know Still in use two weeks ago.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: That’s exactly what they were for - and they remained in use (with evolving boats, obvs) until the 90s at least; maybe still today for all I know Not just grey funnel line either, we had the same arrangement for lifeboats on RN container ships, and still in use today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 13 hours ago, robgizlu said: Approx 12 links per cm Jamie. Rob, 12 links is actually quite coarse. Below are a few examples from my chain locker stock The brass chains here are ~30 links per inch, the black one is a little less (~24 I think) but very fine and may be better for your model. From memory I got these from a fine scale model railway site, but checking my email, I can't seem to find the order reference, sorry. If you can't source them yourself, let me know what length you need. I buy this stuff for stock so I always have some to hand, I'd be happy to let you have some if it helps Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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