AdrianMF Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Goodness me that looks like a fiddle. A very precise and accurate fiddle at that. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Seconded! Good job Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I used a similar method when I scratch built the "star" struts on the Hansa Brandenburg CC: it was simple but very effective. So yes I would have been proud to use your refined method! P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Nice work in the struts. I was going to fit brass pins on the Wight but didn’t and payed the price in hours of fiddling. Will do this for future scratchbuilt projects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Great problem solving, this is all so well thought out. I'm learning a lot from following your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Happy Birthday Ian - have one for me! (Posted here as well, just in case ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Thanks Ced, I'll have 2 then! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Hi ian, Its a real pleasure following this build. I'm learning a lot from your methods. So far I've gone through 2 Pack of popcorn, 4 packs of cheese and onion crisp's and two cream eggs. I wont mention the booze. Keep up the good work as I'm well stocked up for the rest. Cheers Joe M Stick & String Rule O.K. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 5:43 PM, AdrianMF said: Goodness me that looks like a fiddle. A very precise and accurate fiddle at that. Regards, Adrian It was more than a fiddle, it was a right royal PITA! But it's done now so we can move ahead. On 4/25/2020 at 9:06 PM, pheonix said: I used a similar method when I scratch built the "star" struts on the Hansa Brandenburg CC: it was simple but very effective. So yes I would have been proud to use your refined method! P I meant more that you would be proud to see I've followed your route of cheap and simple jigs, not that mine was particularly refined, which it definitely isn't! On 4/25/2020 at 9:20 PM, Marklo said: Nice work in the struts. I was going to fit brass pins on the Wight but didn’t and payed the price in hours of fiddling. Will do this for future scratchbuilt projects. It's well worth the extra time spent. I do it for all my wing struts. On 4/25/2020 at 9:47 PM, RichieW said: Great problem solving, this is all so well thought out. I'm learning a lot from following your build. Thanks Richie, glad you find my methods useful! I find that trying ti think it out ahead of time can save a lot of headaches later. Not always though.... On 4/29/2020 at 2:26 AM, Joe M said: Hi ian, Its a real pleasure following this build. I'm learning a lot from your methods. So far I've gone through 2 Pack of popcorn, 4 packs of cheese and onion crisp's and two cream eggs. I wont mention the booze. Keep up the good work as I'm well stocked up for the rest. Cheers Joe M Stick & String Rule O.K. Thanks Joe, glad you find it useful! I hope you managed to get out to resupply! So onwards to today's session! Most of it was spent at the spray booth. There were a few things I wanted to get done today. In no particular order they were: A second coat of CDL on the undersides, paint the cabane struts, aluminium coat on the engine mounting, paint the prop hub PE and control horns, also PE. I got all those done, and some work on the Battle too! Here is the evidence! cabane struts done undersides (the actual colour is a little yellower than it appears on the pic) I didn't take a pic of the PE, but I also did the rudder. I cut a 2.5mm strip of tape and masked the centre white stripe, then decided to see how accurate i could get with the airbrush and sprayed both the red and blue with no further masking. It turned out pretty good, but there is a faint trace of red overspray on the blue so I will mask off again and respray the blue. Not too bad though for a first attempt at spraying anything even remotely accurately! Tomorrow's jobs sound like fun - drilling rigging holes and making the main landing gear will be the first priorities. If I get time I will start preparing the masks for the undersides. These aircraft had the upper surface PC10 wrapped around the edges onto the underside of both wings and tailplane so I'll need to cut the masks from tape. After all that's done...paint time! Have a great weekend folks, stay safe, and thanks for looking in! Ian 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Evening all! Plans for today all accomplished! I spent most of the morning drilling all the rigging holes, and also the mounting points for the landing gear and control cable pulleys. There are 10 of the latter: two just inboard of the inner rear struts for rudder and elevator cables, two under each lower wing, and two more above each upper wing! I tried not to drill through the lower wing but it's so thin I did so on a few of the holes. The outer ones shouldn't be an issue as they will be covered by the roundels and hopefully the inner ones will cover up without major problems. Here's a taster of how close together the rigging holes are... That meant this afternoon could be used to make the main landing gear. I used my usual method of (0.5mm) brass rod with plastic strip CAd on to give some shape. I managed to get two legs pretty well matched up, and tweaked the bends to make sure they give the correct measurements as far as spread and distance from the bottom of the nacelle. They fit well enough now so I can make final adjustments when they are glued in place. Here are the bare brass legs I then added strips of .5 x .75mm to give the required shape. Initially that gave me this but on comparing to photos I wasn't happy with the rear leg (the outermost one on each side). I decided to sand down the strip to the rear and add a piece of .5 x .5mm strip to the front of the rear leg. Outer edges of all the strip had the edges rounded off and the rear leg was thinned to match the depth of the front. I now have this which I'm much happier with. A smear of PPP which will be sanded down tomorrow evening and the legs are done! Masks next.... Thanks for looking in, and stay safe! Ian 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 More neat, meticulous work that makes my eyes hurt looking at it big size on my laptop screen! Nicely done Ian! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Superb combination of brass and plastic!!! I'm veryimpressed!! Well done Ian!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 2:11 PM, keefr22 said: More neat, meticulous work that makes my eyes hurt looking at it big size on my laptop screen! Nicely done Ian! Keith Thanks Keith, I'm waiting on a new magnifier as we speak! On 5/3/2020 at 4:30 PM, Massimo said: Superb combination of brass and plastic!!! I'm veryimpressed!! Well done Ian!!! Wow, praise indeed! Many thanks Massimo! I worked yesterday so have a "normal" weekend this week, instead of Friday and Saturday. I still can't get used to that even after nearly 2 years! Continuing on from the last post I got some paint on the undercarriage today to check for any sign of extra work being needed. A couple of smears of PPP should see these sorted. Then it was masking. I did the lower wing earlier in the week. Today I got the tail and upper wing done, along with attaching 0.3mm masking tape on the upper surfaces for the ribs. I still need to do the riblets along the leading edges. I'm not sure if I should give that a coat of Mr Surfacer, or smear some PPP along the edges to blend them in. Recomendations? More tomorrow hopefully! Thanks for looking in and stay safe! Oh and Happy Liberation Day to all Channel Islanders! Ian 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 nice work Ian. It's all coming together now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Seconded! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 I thought I'd get some paint on this today so went ahead and did so. It's now green! However, I'm not sure about the rib tapes as they're far too obvious. I may still attempt to blend them in with a smear of PPP but that will now have to wait until later in the week. here's how she looks as of this evening. If that doesn't work they'll come off. It will look better with no detail on the upper surface than with these sticking out like a sore thumb! Thanks for looking in! Ian 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 IMHO they are too prominent Ian. Just my two pennyworth! P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 hours ago, limeypilot said: If that doesn't work they'll come off. Noooo, Ian, all that meticulous work. 5 hours ago, limeypilot said: It will look better with no detail on the upper surface Without some indication that the wings are indeed fabric covered they will appear solid or sheathed in plywood. I achieved acceptable results on the M.33 with a dead flat sanding block and sanding down filler primer to the tapes only and repriming and sanding until the sharp edges receded. Worth a try. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I’d go for the smear of ppp it should smooth out the rub transition and give a softer profile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 9:12 PM, pheonix said: IMHO they are too prominent Ian. Just my two pennyworth! P I quite agree P.see below. On 5/10/2020 at 10:56 PM, DMC said: Noooo, Ian, all that meticulous work. Without some indication that the wings are indeed fabric covered they will appear solid or sheathed in plywood. I achieved acceptable results on the M.33 with a dead flat sanding block and sanding down filler primer to the tapes only and repriming and sanding until the sharp edges receded. Worth a try. Dennis It's no more hardwork than I did for the undersides and that all came off too... further progree below. On 5/10/2020 at 11:13 PM, Marklo said: I’d go for the smear of ppp it should smooth out the rub transition and give a softer profile. Thought about it, didn't do it... Well folks, after referencing pics on Vintage Aviator it was clear that the fabric is very taut and there is no visible change in levels where the ribs are. There really isn't much of a colour difference either in most pics, but as DMC mentioned, it needs something to liven it up a bit. I therefore decided to follow the same technique that I used on the undersides. That meant removing all masking. The wings will be given another coat or two of PC10 which should leave the tape areas slightly lighter and add a bit of visual interest. Other than that, today was a detail day. I painted the metalwork on the landing gear and cabane struts. Tamiya black, nothing special, but another job done. The cockpit nacelle needed a couple of extra bits that I'd missed. Some FE8s had something stuck under the nacelle. It looks to be central (side to side) and is just forward of the elevator control horns. Maybe its a fairing of some sort (for a compass?) Not all aircraft had it, but the one I'm modelling did, so that's been glued on. I also made up an intake for the engine. 0.8mm aluminium rod was bent and drilled out. I would have used tube but couldn't get it bent tight enough without kinking, even with brass rod inside it. That's gone in a little ziplock bag with the tailskid I made the other day! Finally, wheels. I had intended to use my own 3d printed ones but they are fractionally too small. I found a recycled pair of Aeroclub wheels taken from the Meikraft SPAD I built, which was destroyed by my relocation experts when I moved over here, so they've been cleaned up and will be painted tomorrow, along with the upper wings. I also had to fill the axle hole with CA and redrill it smaller so they'd fit but that went fairly easily. That's about it for today. It doesn't look much but took most of the afternoon, hopefully tomorrow will show some visible progress. Thanks for looking in, and stay safe! Ian 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 19 hours ago, limeypilot said: That's gone in a little ziplock bag with the tailskid I made the other day! Just don't lose the bag Ian...(voice of experience...!!) More tidy tiny work - good stuff! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, keefr22 said: Just don't lose the bag Ian...(voice of experience...!!) More tidy tiny work - good stuff! Keith I'll certainly try Keith! It's in the same place as the rest of the bits (Lewis, decals, engine)...so if I lose it I have serious problems! Music turned up (I'm on a Magnum binge at the mo, fabulous band and way too under rated!) and off we go! As you would have seen in my last post I had removed the masking for the ribs on the wings. I had gone a little over the top with the paint so I had some rather big ridges along the tape lines. Those were lightly sanded down to leave just a trace of their presence and the wings were returned to the paint shop. I'm very happy with that. Subtle but definitely there, which is just what I wanted. Unfortunately I also did the top wing which I had intended to leave until after it was mounted and rigged to make it easier to blend in any repairs needed after the rigging sessions. Bugger. I'll have to be even more careful with the rigging now! The rudder was also finished off. It looks a little rough but is actually ok, and with a matt coat there should be no issues. The wheels were painted too, but there is more work to do cleaning up the inner faces on those. There was one other little job which I have kept putting off, and which I decided to tackle today. Masking and painting the prop tip shields. I spent quite a while trying to figure out how best to do it and keep the shapes constant. Finally I realised that the masking tape I'm using is see-through so the plans were reduced to the correct size (the prop was not drawn to scale) and I stuck masking tape on both sides over the prop tips. One of them needed to be removed which showed up an interesting feature of this stuff - the printed pattern was stuck to the tape, very clearly marking exactly where the cuts needed to be made. Unfortunately they were still too small to do that way and ensure that they matched, so they were cut out with a scalpel blade directly from the plans. Since I had put tape on both sides I knew that I would have 2 matching masks. They were also cut slightly wider than necessary to wrap around the edges. This stuff is tacky enough to stick multiple times, but not too tacky that I can't peel it off paper. Once all the blade tips were done I added thin strips down the edges (just in case!) and covered the hub. The end result: More than happy with that, so now just the hub to add and that will wait until I come to mount the prop. That's it for now, I may get some more done later, we'll see. Thanks for looking in and stay safe! Ian 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Nice prop Ian. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 prop tips a go go. Nice job Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I do like the wing ribs Ian - very effective. The prop looks very good too. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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