shortCummins Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Whilst looking around the interweb for “stuff” on the various aircraft in my stash, I stumbled across this… …so after that I was hooked and my mind was made-up what to build next. Here’s the kit box art. As I’ve just done a grey & green camo’ scheme I want a bit of a change however I’m currently undecided which scheme to go for… …I quite like the red but the black looks equally good. Whilst it’s not strictly correct I’m going to copy the box art and depict a NMF, I know it should be “high-speed” silver(?) but I think it’ll be more interesting as polished aluminium. Having said that I found this photo… …so that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it. I got a couple of after-market pieces, the Quickboost seat and an Eduard PE set Rummaging through the “spares box” I came across theses So I’ll probably make use of a couple RBF ribbons if I can find out where they would have been placed? Next I’ll be making a start on the cockpit. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 John, Watch those profiles, the top one is an F.1A but it didn't have the intake on the spine, that came with the F.2. The bottom one is an F.1, not only did it not have the intake on the spine but it also lacked the long cable duct on the lower fuselage (the long lozenge shaped one just above the belly tank). It's quite easy to get caught out by these things especially if the profile is wrong and therefore misleading! I shall be watching this thread with interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Looking forward to seeing how you get on, I was considering this very kit next, but I'll probably wait a bit now or yours will put my attempts to shame (like everyone's seems to on here!) I'll learn from yours first then maybe in a few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonkaGuy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 As above, I too am looking forward to seeing the end product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesthegringo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Just a point of note, if those remove before flight tags are the same 1/48th ones as what I have from Eduard (not at home so can't verify but they came in the Eduard Tornado Big Ed set) beware that they come out at a scale 55" long, waaay too long compared to what I have seen on real aircraft. I ended up buying the 1/72nd set for my Revell Gulf war Tornado, they were far better in terms of scale length And take your time with setting the wings, I did mine by attaching them to the fuselage halves before joining the fuselage, which helped immensely with the correct dihedral, but I realised too late that when the wing halves are being joined, you need to clamp them very firmly to setting blocks to get the characteristic wing warp shape. Mine are slightly different side to side, hence the position of the model in the cabinet to hide my faux pas Cheers Les Edited February 14, 2020 by lesthegringo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Another “gotcha” is that the kit cockpit and instrument panel more closely approximate to those of the F. 2A, F. 3 and F. 6 fitted with the OR946 instrumentation. The Mk. 1, 1A and 2 retained the old “basic six” blind flying instruments in a cockpit as black as a coal hole at midnight. I think there are images on Thunder and Lightnings website showing the cockpit of the last F. 2 which is now on Malta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 One more thing, it's a Lightning as in thunder and lightning, not a lightening as in something that lightens something else... ...following this thread from Pedants Corner 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Great video! I have two Lightning kits - the Eduard special of the Airfix F.1 and the Airfix boxing of the F.2/6. The former I intend to build in one of the NMF schemes above but after seeing that video and learning about its pedigree I'll definitely have to build the latter as XR729. Thanks for sharing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 High Speed Silver was the standard "silver" finish for all front-line RAF types - except the Lightning which was indeed bare metal. I have no ideas why this should be the case but others might! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Great video! There's always a 'hot ship' in any squadron or fleet, just seems to perform better and behave itself more than the others. Sounds like XR749 was something special, glad to see it's survived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 14/02/2020 at 11:37, Wez said: John, Watch those profiles, the top one is an F.1A but it didn't have the intake on the spine, that came with the F.2. The bottom one is an F.1, not only did it not have the intake on the spine but it also lacked the long cable duct on the lower fuselage (the long lozenge shaped one just above the belly tank). It's quite easy to get caught out by these things especially if the profile is wrong and therefore misleading! I shall be watching this thread with interest. Hi Wez, do you mean these? thanks for the "heads up" rgds John(shortCummins) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, shortCummins said: Hi Wez, do you mean these? That's the badgers! The lower one, the cable duct is also longer on the F.3 (and F.6 versions). Edited February 15, 2020 by Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 hours ago, Wez said: One more thing, it's a Lightning as in thunder and lightning, not a lightening as in something that lightens something else... ...following this thread from Pedants Corner thanks Wez spoil choker mishap rgds John(shortCummins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 High speed silver was not applied to the Lightning due to airframe heating at speed. It was later discovered that it wasn't such an issue and that being spotted from above was a bigger deal, so they went camo on top (F.3 & F.6) and all green on top (F.2A) before the last years when they went into the grey schemes. AFAIK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonkaGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Looking forward to this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks to stever219 for pointing out the incorrect instrument panel, as luck would have it Eduard supply two IPs on their PE, one for the F.1 (the “basic six”) & one for the F.2A. I’ve given the PE and plastic a coat of my favourite UMP/Stynylrez black primer. I’m only going to use the “top half” of the PE, for the dials and leave the kit “lower half” as it’s more 3D. The area of the IP panel that the PE fits to will be painted white, Eduard supply acetate dials and I’m hoping that the white will show them better? More PE for the footwell and pedals, I’m not convinced that these will be visible once the cockpit is buttoned up, but I’ll know their there. The Quick Boost seat is really nice and I hope I can do the detail painting justice I’ve also given the fuselage walls a coat of UMP/Stynylrez black primer, once again I’m not sure how much, if anything, will be seen. I’m sorely tempted to leave the cockpit black primer and highlight/dry-brush the dials and panels, I’ll probably try it and see? Next I’ll be doing the detail painting on the bang-seat and buttons. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Also no refuelling probe on an F1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 To add a wee bit of “interest” I painted the dials panel Tamiya X-1 gloss black, the rest of the IP remained UMP/Stynylrez black primer which has a eggshell/satin type sheen, I hope that this will give a bit of depth. The acetate and PE panel were glued on using white glue. As reference for the bang-seat and harness I used these photos found on the interweb. For the seat cushions I used olive drab, for the backrest, and XF-64 red brown for the cushion. Harness’ were then picked out with X-4 blue, XF-49 khaki and XF-57 buff. Buckles were picked out in X-1 gloss black and the bottom frame of the seat was painted XF-83 medium sea grey (RAF) XF-63 was then dry-brushed on the sides of the seat and the instrument panels. Next I’ll be adding a few decals and then assembling the cockpit. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 ooohh, my favourite kit, looks like you're doing a decent build of it, excellent work with the cockpit and seat.! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Wow! two Lightning builds at the same time. I've not seen anything yet to beat a Lightning departure from an air dispay, going straight up and often rolling. I used to be involved in the IAT at Greenham and Fairford and we used to ask for clearance to FL180 for a Lightning departure, but only FL120 for a Phantom. Also looking forward to this. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Cockpit sub-assembly nailed together. Normally I’d not fit the seat until the end of the build however, its a little too wide at the base and therefore doesn't sit flat, and probably will be too high so some minor fettling was needed. It’s a tight fit so I’ve decided to fix the seat in place however I’ll wait until the end of the build before fitting the face curtain handle. During the fettling the throttle made a bolt for it, pinged off and was promptly eaten by the ‘carpet monster’, oh bugger! I’ll try to scratch something. Next I’ll be building the intake and exhaust sub-assemblies so that the fuselage halves can be joined together. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 nice work and great video! above! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The cockpit is coming together nicely ( apart from the throttles ) John and the Quickboost seat looks great. I prefer seats with moulded belts to PE ones, the only trouble is painting them convincingly and you’ve done a fantastic job on them. Looking forward to more. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Biggles87 said: The cockpit is coming together nicely ( apart from the throttles ) John and the Quickboost seat looks great. I prefer seats with moulded belts to PE ones, the only trouble is painting them convincingly and you’ve done a fantastic job on them. Looking forward to more. John thanks John those seat belts were quite like spaghetti and I'm not convinced I painted them the correct colours but I agree they tend to look better that PE belts. rgds John(shortCummins) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Looks great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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