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21 minutes ago, Marklo said:

I've tried Vallejo filler don’t like it at all. I admire your patience, I’d have used milliput as it builds up well and sticks to anything.

Vallejo putty is the only filler I have used since I came back to aircraft modelling last autumn. I am trying to avoid anything with thinners or solvents which is why I am using acrylic paint and filler.

 

I might try Milliput next time as long as it isn't too pongy or fumey.

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The RAF interest in the Re2000 and also Caproni 310 was fairly well described before the days of the internet.  At this stage there was no reason why Mussolini would have asked permission, however much Hitler may or may not have disapproved.  Remember that this stage a confrontation with the UK and France was not planned for before 1942.  I suspect that any Luftwaffe evaluation would have considered the prospect of such orders of little real concern.  Italy was building modern floatplanes (Cant Z,506) for the Poles, and they were much higher up Hitler's list of intentions.  (OK, only one actually arrived....)

 

Milliput is a two-part epoxy with no fumes and non-pongy.  It also sands well - but isn't brilliant when taking scribing.

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55 minutes ago, AltcarBoB said:

Vallejo putty is the only filler I have used since I came back to aircraft modelling last autumn.

It's great for smaller gaps & cracks because of it's relative thinness and solubility with water. 
For larger work not so much. The much maligned Humbrol (with some thinner to make it flow slightly) works pretty well however.

PPP (haven't tried it yet) seems to be more suited for parts that need rescribing apparently.

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1 hour ago, Graham Boak said:

The RAF interest in the Re2000 and also Caproni 310 was fairly well described before the days of the internet

I havent seen any proof of the order, I would like to see it but no one can find anything in the British, German or Italian archives or it would be in every book. Plenty of facts were made up on the spot before the internet they just get more attention nowadays. My favourite aviation myth the Luftwaffe flew a bomber over New York City during WWII no one can quite agree when it happened, what aircraft was used and how the LW managed to break the laws of physics but its out there and believed by many.

 

In early 1940 the RAF was short of pilots not of aircraft, the panic ordering of anything that could fly from the USA came later after the fall of France.  if the story was importing pilots from Italy I would believe it more

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1 hour ago, alt-92 said:

It's great for smaller gaps & cracks because of it's relative thinness and solubility with water. 
For larger work not so much. The much maligned Humbrol (with some thinner to make it flow slightly) works pretty well however.

PPP (haven't tried it yet) seems to be more suited for parts that need rescribing apparently.

Its the thinners part I am not keen on. I much prefer Dihydrogen Monoxide as a solvent.

 

By PPP am I right in assuming you mean Deluxe Products Perfect Plastic Putty I have heard good things about it but not got round to buying it yet.

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I’m also trying to reduce the solvents and favour acrylics with just a few enamels where they don’t cut it. But I have to admit Testers green stuff is still my favourite filler followed by Tamiya putty, milliput I use for large buildups and really sculpting jobs, where I can I also use perfect plastic putty and liquid green stuff ( both water based) where I can. 

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1 hour ago, Graham Boak said:

The RAF interest in the Re2000 and also Caproni 310 was fairly well described before the days of the internet.  At this stage there was no reason why Mussolini would have asked permission, however much Hitler may or may not have disapproved.  Remember that this stage a confrontation with the UK and France was not planned for before 1942.  I suspect that any Luftwaffe evaluation would have considered the prospect of such orders of little real concern.  Italy was building modern floatplanes (Cant Z,506) for the Poles, and they were much higher up Hitler's list of intentions.  (OK, only one actually arrived....)

 

Milliput is a two-part epoxy with no fumes and non-pongy.  It also sands well - but isn't brilliant when taking scribing.

 

Yeah, some of us are old enough to remember things from before the Internet.

 

 

Chris

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Milliput extra fine scribes pretty well, but as both putties are white you need to be careful to mix it well and that the quantities are exactly equal. A good tip is to add a few drops of a dark acrylic paint to the milliput then you can see if it’s thoroughly mixed. 

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The Undercarriage made from spare bits of sprue and some wheels off another kit, I have cut out but not yet fitted the U/C covers. The wheel wells look a bit bland so I might add some bits of plasticard to give it some detail. The exhausts were cut from the cowling of the gladiator kit filed to fit and blended into the cowling, a bit of filler is still needed I think.

 

49534095806_9d7fb5e56b_c.jpgIMG_20200214_124900724 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49534096861_a9d305b3d7_c.jpgIMG_20200214_125010076_BURST000_COVER by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49534321657_887c310848_c.jpgIMG_20200214_124928719 by Stuart, on Flickr

49534322892_8c6b5b8d58_c.jpgIMG_20200214_124908116 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

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I needed a name for my Gloster Gladiator Monoplane. @Truro Model Builder suggested Gannet and after thinking hard for a better name I decided yep thats the one. Formy back story I wanted some specs which I have made up from a combination of Gladiator, Fiat G50 and Fokker DXXI specs.

 

Gloster Gannet MkI and MkIA

 

General characteristics

Crew: 1

Length: 27 ft 5 in (8.36 m)

Wingspan: 36 ft 3 in (11.0 m)

Height: 11 ft 9 in (3.58 m)

Wing area: 174 ft2 (16.2 m2)

Empty weight: 3,614 lb (1,650 kg)

Loaded weight: 4,850 lb (2,199 kg)

Powerplant: MkI 1 × Bristol Mercury XXV radial engine, 930 hp (709 kW) at 14,000 ft:

                   MkIA Bristol Mercury XXVI 960 hp at 8,000 ft

Propeller De Havilland 3 blade constant speed (License built Hamilton Standard)

Performance

Maximum speed: MkI 296 mph (257 knots, 476 km/h) at 14,500 ft (4,400 m), MkIA 292 mph (260 knots, 270 km/h) at 8,000 ft

Cruise speed: 210 mph (183 knots, 388 km/h)

Stall speed: 63 mph (55 knots, 94 km/h)

Endurance: 2 hours

Service ceiling: MkI 32,800 ft (10,000 m), MkIA 24,500 ft (7468 m)

Rate of climb: MkI 2,300 ft/min (11.7 m/s), MkIA 2600 ft/min (12.2 m/s)

Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): MkI 4.75 min, MkIA 4.2 min.

Armament

MkI Six or Eight .303 calibre Colt Browning machine guns

MkIA Eight .303 calibre Colt Brownings and could be fitted with underwing racks to carry two 112lb GP or AS Bombs.

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I think its ready for the spray booth

 

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Finally got round to applying paint with hairy sticks. I did the camo freehand as I just couldnt face masking and spraying. I really hate my airbrush.

 

Undersides in RAF Sky and one Black wing as used till Summer 1940

 

49563045137_f093b8b30b_c.jpgIMG_20200220_224701223 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

Camo pattern lined in whitewash (well thinned white paint) and Dark Sea Grey started

 

49562806031_7ba2e0b43d_c.jpgIMG_20200220_185254549_HDR by Stuart, on Flickr

 

First and second coats applied

 

49562806891_e3ea575483_c.jpgIMG_20200220_205333659 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

Third coats

 

49563033547_cac6061902_c.jpgIMG_20200220_205307395 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

I have to admit it started as a bit of a giggle but I think its coming out really well. If Gloster had built this it could have been a very good fighter for the first 2 years of the war.

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Think I have finished the Gannet. If anyone spots that I painted the wing undersuface Black on the wrong wing well I got my lefts and rights mixed up and by the time I realised I was at the transfer stage and couldnt face the thought of stripping everything back to plastic. Its a Whiffer I will have to get over it.

 

The decals are from the original Airfix kit and the paint job is a mix of a Fulmar and a Sea Gladiator late 1940 to early 1941

 

49605590636_573d7fe7b5_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183548433 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49605079958_d99fb6acea_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183352339 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49605078678_fc3c7e4a1d_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183400210 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49605585506_cd3b9ae40b_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183422969 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49605835007_cb218f6272_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183429971 by Stuart, on Flickr

 

49605073878_262ca8564d_c.jpgIMG_20200301_183441060 by Stuart, on Flickr

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