Robert Stuart Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 This build will be of IBG's HMS Zetland, a Hunt II class destroyer in 1942. I don't have much reference fo the model, so will build OOB. To give you an idea how big - or small - the model is ... 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Pretty she she was in the med force H in WW2 and took part in Malta convoys. Great choice, looking forward to how it comes together. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Anytime a stage II Hunt class is built I try to follow along. I had an uncle that served on one during the war. ORP Kujawiak which was formerly HMS Oakley. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Kujawiak_(L72) Dennis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 You are very welcome Dennis. Have you built a model of ORP Kujawiak? She had an attractive scheme 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Sadly No, I haven't had a chance as of yet. IBG kits are a bit thin on the ground in the states. I eventually will build the 1/700 kit and use it to learn from. Someday I’d like to get one of the 1:350 scale resin Hunt II’s but thats a bit down the line. I disagree with the official cause of sinking of the Kujawiak as my uncle insisted the ship was torpedoed by Ju.88’s. But that debate would be for another day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: IBG kits are a bit thin on the ground in the states. Or, when you do find them, they are silly prices. I had a chance, today, to grab a sprue shot ... This, plus instructions, is all that is in the box. And some of those parts are small, I can see the carpet monster, slavering at the prospect of this build. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Wow! There is not a lot in that box, what is in the box looks small and it looks like the PE could be.......interesting!!! Looking forward to seeing it in progress. Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PlaStix said: looks like the PE could be.......interesting!!! Mmmm, very. Those spade like things (middle top odf the etch) are, I think, oerlikon guns - with shields 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Good luck Robert I'm jealous of your eyesight ! cheers Pat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: Good luck Robert I'm jealous of your eyesight ! cheers Pat I have help Pat ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Wow Robert thats an amazing bit of kit, can you put a link on here so i can find out more about it please. I think its likely to scare mrs Jockney when im reading a book in bed but hey that surely is another reason to get one ! cheers Pat 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JOCKNEY said: Wow Robert thats an amazing bit of kit, can you put a link on here so i can find out more about it please. I think its likely to scare mrs Jockney when im reading a book in bed but hey that surely is another reason to get one ! cheers Pat Here you are Pat https://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Headband-Magnifier-With-Detachable-LED-Light-prcode-999-4509 If you do get one, be aware that the hinge with lens sockets accepts lenses the right way (the lenses click in and stay ) and the wrong way (the lenses fall out ). Cheers Robert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 12/02/2020 at 18:13, Robert Stuart said: Here you are Pat https://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Headband-Magnifier-With-Detachable-LED-Light-prcode-999-4509 You complete and utter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Progress today ... I've started building a base for Zetland The next stage was to wrap the base in plaster bandage. Zetland's base is the smaller one (the other will be for HMS Renown). Both bases are very green here, hence the sprue drying rack. Other activity? I feel that waterline models, generally, ride too low in the water. So, I added some thin expanded polystyrene sheet under the hull. Hopefully, by the time I've added waves to the base, that should look about right. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) On 2/11/2020 at 4:04 PM, Robert Stuart said: Mmmm, very. Those spade like things (middle top odf the etch) are, I think, oerlikon guns - with shields 🤪 Hi Robert, Having built a good many 1/700 ships in my earlier years, I know that the light AA armament is always problematic. On the Japanese Waterline ships like the Jintsu I intend to build they are always a bit chunky with a scale barrel width far too great - the twin 25mm barrels should I guess be around 0.1mm diameter when in fact the kit ones are at least 0.5mm. The alternative PE sets are probably better but I imagine they will be a pain to bend into shape and then they will, as with the PE aerials and the like on planes, be somewhat 2 dimensional. I suppose I could try Gauge "0" piano wire which would look a bit better but it will be a real fiddle. As to the triple 13mm mg in front of the bridge - forget it! I seem to remember using lengths cut from pins on and least one of my old US battleship builds, though whether they were supposed to be 20mm, 40mm or even 0.5" I can't say. Best of luck with them. Nice to see a DE/Frigate as they are/were never very common kits although they did form a large part of the convoy escorts towards the end of the war. The nearest I got back then was a pair of the small wartime "economy" destroyers of the "O" class boxed by Skywave who are now Pit Road I believe. Pete Edited February 16, 2020 by PeterB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Gidday, I usually work in Airfix 1/600 rather than 1/700, and Airfix's small weapons usually are somewhat crude, so I now try to make my own if I can. Not as good as PE parts but better than kit parts, I think. For 20mm, 40mm and 2lb pompom barrels I use stretched sprue. I've got it down to 0.2mm. On another occasion I stretched Evergreen 2mm rod down to about 0.1mm (for a funnel cap) but that could be a bit too thin to use. I hope this helps. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thank-you Pete, Jeff I'll see how things go with the weapons. In addition to PE, AM stuff includes injection moulded, cast resin and 3d printed items. I've found some 3d printed 4" guns that look absolutly stunning in digital preview, but at nearly twice the cost of the base kit. As to stretched sprue, I have plans for that too ... Cheers Robert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Some progress with Zetland ... The base has had a coat of white paint, and I've given the top a coat of molding (sic) paste. The molding paste is basically acrylic medium with a filler to make it stiffer (I believe the filler is marble dust?). The layer of plastic film is an attempt to keep it smooth while it dries. It does slow the drying, and can introduce other issues if removed too soon. I've also made a start on a holder for the model. The idea here is that the upright piece of wood will protect any sticky out things when I drop the model. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, Robert Stuart said: The idea here is that the upright piece of wood will protect any sticky out things when I drop the model. Gidday Robert, good idea. Of course, no-one says you HAVE to drop the model, but if you think you really really must . . . 😁 Regards, Jeff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Good to see you are underway Robert and good idea with the holder! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday Robert, good idea. Of course, no-one says you HAVE to drop the model, but if you think you really really must . . . 😁 Regards, Jeff. How else would I feed the carpet monster? 1 hour ago, PlaStix said: Good to see you are underway Robert and good idea with the holder! Thanks Stix, feel I'm just getting up steam, but, at least something is hapening. The holder idea isn't original to me, I stole it from one of the ship modelling sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Started modelling the sea on Zetland's base The cocktail sticks were there to give a sense of the waves' rythm, and were going to be embedded on the base ... The sea base with Zetland's hull and this is where I planned to stop... --- But I didn't I wrapped the hull in Magic Tape for protection, and went on with the base By this stage, I'd removed the coctail sticks (they were making the waves too mechanical). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 ' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 So that’s how you build bases! Nice. shes very small! I don’t envy you. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 20 hours ago, rob85 said: So that’s how you build bases! Nice. shes very small! I don’t envy you. Rob Thanks Rob, it's a start I've now given the base a coat of gloss medium, to start smoothing out the form, and to highlight any glaring errors. There are a few issues here, most noticably the middle wave, below the ship, and some of the peaks (top left of picture). We can see, from this image, how deep that 'sea' becomes around the hull with this technique. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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