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5 minutes ago, perdu said:

How else would anyone associate the Sparrows and Lightning's?

 

It was my guess too Bill, I was just playing the fool!

 

19 minutes ago, giemme said:

Just in case this doesn't work, does anybody know where I can get spare decals from this kit? Actually, as a first step I'd just need a good image of them, so that I can cut my own mask for it. 

 

Sorry Giorgio, just checked my kits and I have the original separate boxings of the T4 & 5 which don't have a Treble One option. The F3 kit I have does have a 111 jet in it but as it's the later flat top fin the yellow area is a completely different shape, and I don't know if the badge is the same size.

 

Xtradecal have the jet you're building on their sheet X72201 :

 

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72201?result-token=AMu9N

 

But of course that's one of the few aftermarket Lightning sheets I don't have....

 

Keith

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Oh hell. Sorry to hear about your decal And paint troubles. It didn’t look bad the first time around but I know how little inaccuracies can play on your mind in matters like this. You’ll come out on top though. I’ll keep everything crossed for you Giorgio.

 

Jont. 😇🤞

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On 03/06/2020 at 11:50, keefr22 said:

Sorry Giorgio, just checked my kits and I have the original separate boxings of the T4 & 5 which don't have a Treble One option. The F3 kit I have does have a 111 jet in it but as it's the later flat top fin the yellow area is a completely different shape, and I don't know if the badge is the same size.

 

Xtradecal have the jet you're building on their sheet X72201 :

 

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72201?result-token=AMu9N

 

But of course that's one of the few aftermarket Lightning sheets I don't have....

 

Keith

Never mind Keith, very kind of you for checking :thumbsup:  I'm in to much worse trouble now, see below ... 

On 04/06/2020 at 00:01, The Spadgent said:

Oh hell. Sorry to hear about your decal And paint troubles. It didn’t look bad the first time around but I know how little inaccuracies can play on your mind in matters like this. You’ll come out on top though. I’ll keep everything crossed for you Giorgio.

 

Jont. 😇🤞

Thanks J, but clumsy me managed to add damage to the existing trouble 😞

 

Let's see: as I said I wasn't happy with the paint touch on the fin decal (it was far worse than what the pic showed: wrong color and too thick, showing a hole and edges where the original chunk of decal came off). So I tried a yellow spray-over with an approximate mask

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but there was too much of a difference and showed a neat demarcation between paint and decal. So I decided to respray the whole yellow area, masking the badge; in fact, the plan was to mask the badge, spray gloss black, mask the "Z" and spray yellow. So I cut out a suitable circle mask from Oramask sheet, placed it, but when I removed the unwanted surrounding area, a large chunk of decal came off

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:wall: :swear: :swear: :swear: ... and there were three good coats on Aqua Gloss on top of it ...

 

Anyway, I completed the masking like this

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Then airbrushed Tamiya Gloss Black; once cured I placed the "Z" mask, again cut (by hand, had no time to use the cutter I have at work) form Oramask, placed it an when I removed the surrounding part, an even lager chunk of decal came off, luckily leaving the badge in place. So I went on spraying Tamiya Flat Yellow and here's the result

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The Z needs touching up and so does the black areas because of a bit of overspray, but I'll do that once gloss coated. Fairly happy with that, I was going back from my spraying booth (AKA garage) to my workbench, and I dropped the model...

 

... on the garage concrete floor...

 

... a perfect nose dive....

 

Damage report: starboard wing came off (next pic shows after I glued it back in place

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the tank fin came off too

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and broke

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The front fuselage, ahead of the wheel bay, cracked open - and the radome/wheel bay assembly broke loose too

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For some unknown reason, a chunk of port side fin decal came off- at this point I thought: "This is a nightmare!! :frantic: "

 

All of this happened Thursday Night. I took Friday as an off day from modelling, to think if I wanted to try and salvage it, and then I decided to give it a go.

 

As I mentioned, I had immediately glued the wing back; I did the same with the front fuselage

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The pitot mount got lost though, so I had to scratch build a new one. looking onto the spares box, I select this Harrier refueling probe as a starting point

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I cut out the right end, shaped with files and sandpaper, drilled the pitot peg mounting hole

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Then I glued it in place and test fitted the pitot

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That can do.

 

For the wing, brushed some PPP on the joint, discovering in the meantime that a seam cracked open also on the top spine, and port joint split a bit too

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PPP has been smoothed down since, but only repaint will tell I did a good job.

 

I did glue back the tank fin though, and resprayed Tamiya Gloss Aluminium on the bottom here

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and here

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Huge seam! Rats, didn't see that coming... 

 

So off with the sanding tools again, then I filled in with sprue goo - it's now curing

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I also started dealing with port side fin decal; I first tried brushing on Lifecolor Yellow, but with poor results, so I sanded it off

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and decided to check if I had a matching yellow on the spare decal sheets from previous builds. I selected three candidates, testing them on the gloss black area of the painting mule to see which one matched better

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I selected the right one, that came from an Academy kit (the 1/48 LA7), but obviously once in place, the added bit stood out like a lightning (aaargh!) in the night ...

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I brush coated the whole fin with Aqua Gloss, flooding the area where the patch is, hoping to be able to blend it in via judicious sanding - I hope it works, but I'll start looking for spare decals anyway, firstly asking Sword if they can provide the whole sheet. 

 

Not everything went south, luckily; I managed to spray a flat coat (W&N Galeria) on the canopy, and removed the masking afterwards

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Safely stored away, waiting for detail painting of the sealant around the frames, but I'll do that once I unmask the windshield too (if I can actually rescue the model, that is ...)

 

All comments welcome, as usual

 

Ciao

 

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Oh bugger G. looks like a hole heap of fun coming up.

You have done well so far mate .

 

You should be able to save her.

 

Simon.

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Man alive bad luck, You an I must be related as thats exactly what happened to my one the other week! A Resin 1/72 though!

 

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What a recovery Giorgio! I’m glad you didn’t give up as she’s going to look amazing :) 

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That is a great recovery but blue blazes, who needs that sort of nonsense? Full marks for your perseverance. 👍

Steve.

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You're a good man Giorgio! And you're saving the British taxpayers lots of money keeping this Lightning in service.

Impressive decal/paint work and structural repairs. Of course, I believe that you would be capable of building an entire Lightning from yogurt cups and beer cans with a little CA glue, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

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Some builds just seem to be accident prone and this one would test the patience of a saint but you are making a damn fine job of fixing all the problems.

 

AW

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10 hours ago, Spookytooth said:

Oh bugger G. looks like a hole heap of fun coming up.

You have done well so far mate .

 

You should be able to save her.

 

Simon.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Simon :thumbsup:

9 hours ago, George Norman said:

Man alive bad luck, You an I must be related as thats exactly what happened to my one the other week! A Resin 1/72 though!

 

Sorry to hear you had trouble too, George. We do share the same name, as far as relations go... :D 

9 hours ago, Gondor44 said:

Youll be glad when this one is over and done with at this rate.

 

GOndor

Hopefully so, Gondor :thumbsup:

8 hours ago, CedB said:

What a recovery Giorgio! I’m glad you didn’t give up as she’s going to look amazing :) 

Thanks Ced :thumbsup: Still far from being done, though

8 hours ago, stevehnz said:

That is a great recovery but blue blazes, who needs that sort of nonsense? Full marks for your perseverance. 👍

Steve.

I dont', for sure :D Thanks Steve :thumbsup:

8 hours ago, basket said:

You're gonna MAKE it !!!!

 

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:rofl: :rofl: Thanks basket  - very evocative pic :D 

6 hours ago, Cookenbacher said:

You're a good man Giorgio! And you're saving the British taxpayers lots of money keeping this Lightning in service.

Impressive decal/paint work and structural repairs. Of course, I believe that you would be capable of building an entire Lightning from yogurt cups and beer cans with a little CA glue, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

:rofl: Thank you, Cookie - much appreciated :thumbsup: 

6 hours ago, Andwil said:

Some builds just seem to be accident prone and this one would test the patience of a saint but you are making a damn fine job of fixing all the problems.

 

AW

Thanks AW :thumbsup: - yes, this is testing my patience, and I'm no saint...

 

Ciao

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Oh dear G, and I thought I'd had problems with my Spitfire, but It looks like you're well on the way to a full recovery.

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Giorgio send me your address please

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We can test the efficiency of the Royal Mail and the Italian counterparts in lockout.

 

S'app me the details.

 

I have no interest in shiny Lightnings, you do.

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Bill, you're a star! :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:

 

Ciao

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1 hour ago, Biggles87 said:

Oh dear G, and I thought I'd had problems with my Spitfire, but It looks like you're well on the way to a full recovery.

Hopefully so, John - I can see a brighter future after Bill's kind offer :) 

 

Ciao

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1 hour ago, tweeky said:

The wing walkway markings went to the leading edge not turning inboard as yours does. 

Not sure what you mean, tweeky; any chance you can post a scheme/ref pic to clarify matters? Thank you in advance

 

Ciao

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Catching up on here Giorgio, and I felt your pain with some of these challenges, but as ever you certainly know how to take a deep breath and go through recovery processes. Well done for that, and well done to Bill @perdu for his generous actions. The BM community spirit lives on!

 

Terry

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3 hours ago, giemme said:

Not sure what you mean, tweeky; any chance you can post a scheme/ref pic to clarify matters? Thank you in advance

 

Ciao

It seems to be my turn to help today G, how's this?

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I have a Modeldecal sheet for a camo aircraft which show the curve can go as far as the fuselage side, be certain what the decal sheet calls for is the answer.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, perdu said:

I have a Modeldecal sheet for a camo aircraft which show the curve can go as far as the fuselage side, be certain what the decal sheet calls for is the answer.

Mr R L Ward never let us down as far as I recall!

 

Terry

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Giemme, simply stunning so far--quite a historical and color contrast to your more shades of grey Typhoon--I will be following with interest!  Best, Erwin 

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I admire your persistence Giorgio, this little jet is going to be a stunner after all the saves you've made on it! :thumbsup:

 

Keith

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