JOCKNEY Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I am currently reading a book by Michael Armitage An illustrated history of the Royal Air Force. This photo (AHB) appears in the book from the Hendon Airshow 25th June 1932 showing The New Types Park. The bottom 2 I recognise as a Heyford and Hendon, can anyone help me with the others please. cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I think I see a Hawker Fury and a Hawker Hart along the top. DennisTheBear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Pat, G-AAJY is a Short S.11 Valletta G-ABKY is a Blackburn C.A 15C Biplane Not quite sure what that big ugly thing with the 'S' on it's nose is and the smaller fry look a little hard to decipher, although Dennis might be right with the Hart and Fury types. Cheers.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 What's the huge three engined biplane at the center left in the pic ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Animal Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Looks like a Vildebeest Siskin and Gauntlet to the left and at the top too. Really don't know about that three engine jobbie. That's a new one for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Could the little one bottom right be a Tigermoth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, Putty Animal said: Really don't know about that three engine jobbie. That's a new one for me. I'm honestly guessing, however is that a Vickers Virginia with a lashed up third engine on top? I'd put money on it being a Vickers design either way. Cheers.. Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rabbit Leader said: I'm honestly guessing, however is that a Vickers Virginia with a lashed up third engine on top? I'd put money on it being a Vickers design either way. Cheers.. Dave It's the one and only Boulton Paul P.32, J9950. Edited February 8, 2020 by AWFK10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Rabbit Leader said: Pat, G-AAJY is a Short S.11 Valletta G-ABKY is a Blackburn C.A 15C Biplane Not quite sure what that big ugly thing with the 'S' on it's nose is and the smaller fry look a little hard to decipher, although Dennis might be right with the Hart and Fury types. Cheers.. Dave That one is the Gloster TC.33 bomber-transport prototype, J9832. It does look like an 'S' on its nose but it's the New Types Park number, '6'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) If I am reading the registration letters correctly (difficult with the angle) the extreme left is G-BIV or G-GLV. If the former it lists as an AW Atlas II, if the latter then an Avro 504K. I would think the former then. 8 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: Could the little one bottom right be a Tigermoth ? I would think you are correct. Thought so myself last night but I was a bit tired. This is fun!!!! DennisTheBear Edited February 8, 2020 by DennisTheBear Additional thought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I know it's 7 years away (no time at all - think back to 2013), but the RAF really don't look ready to fight a war and these are new designs !!! When you look at these type of pictures you get a real sense of the pace of development that conflict brings. Whilst there are things about living at this time that are not that good (eg climate change, etc), we have been lucky to have been alive during a period of an amazing leap in technologies on all fronts. What will the aircraft look like at an airshow in 2032 I wonder ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 8 hours ago, AWFK10 said: It's the one and only Boulton Paul P.32, J9950. Its definitely a looker ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Could one of the aircraft top right be a Westland Wapati and an Armstrong Whitworth Atlas II ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I think it's the Westland PV6 in its original form. It went on to be modified with an enclosed rear cockpit for the Everest overflight, and was kitted by Frog in that state. The Putnam Westland book has a photo of it arriving at the 1932 Hendon display and says it was in the New Types park. I think you're right about the Atlas II: again, it was certainly present at the 1932 display and the aircraft next to the PV6 looks very like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 AW 16 Scimatar between two Hawkers (Hart damily and Fury on top? Left from Hawker Hart (or Demon) is as was said Westland PV6 or Wallace (not Wapiti since there is a ring on engine), next left is I think AW Atlas as @DennisTheBear &@JOCKNEY suggested. Next I do not recognize, she has unusual struts like Shark (or Fiat Cr 32/42 ) but for sure it is British, but Shark made maiden flight in 1933, so year later. Closer to us is Vildebeest Mk I (early - the elevators with triangular ends) J-W 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 That photo could be the start of one beautiful diorama. It would have to be in the One True Scale, as 1/144 would be too small for detail and 1/48 or larger would be just too big. Alas for this Antipodean modeller also too expensive.😢🇦🇺 DennisTheBear 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 My list for the photo, going clockwise from the Fairey Hendon, is HP Heyford, Boulton paul P32, Vickers Vildebeeste, Bristol type 120 (R6). AW Atlas Mk II, Westland Wallace PV.6 , Hawker Hart variant, Bristol Bulldog Mk 111a (R5), Hawker Hart variant, Valleta in the centre, Gloster TC.33, Blackburn CA15, and the DH.82 Tiger Moth. The Hawkers are both two seaters so they might be Hart Bomber/Trainer, Demon or Audax. John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 With a second longer look, the Hawker type on the top left hand at the top I think might be a Nimrod 1 with long straight pipes and the one on the right appears to have the down swept short pipes of the Hart Trainer or Osprey. John. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 With a second longer look, the Hawker type on the top left hand at the top I think might be a Nimrod 1 with long straight pipes and the one on the right appears to have the down swept short pipes of the Hart Trainer or Osprey. John. Addendum I don't know why I didn't look at my 1932 Aeroplane magazines. I can now confirm that all the above types in my list were in the New Types Park. there is however one type missing (at first glance). This is the Vickers Jockey. Look closely and there it is, under the port wing of the Gloster Troop carrier. John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvyn hiscock Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just my opinion, but I think the AW Scimitar looks like it would be a good flier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, melvyn hiscock said: I think the AW Scimitar looks like it would be a good flier I agree. And I love the double cowling. Very sporty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The above photo is actually the AW.16, the Scimitar is the AW.35. The tragedy is that the Scimitar G-ADBL existed on AW's Whitley site until 1958 when it was unceremoniously scrapped at Coley's yard. the wings being used to reinforce a concrete path. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvyn hiscock Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The fate of so many wonderful aircraft, but if they had all survived we’d have nowhere to put them! i still live in hope of finding a shed full of 110 Le Rhône’s! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Thank you everyone who contributed here, i have really enjoyed finding out what these aircraft were. cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 5:50 AM, JOCKNEY said: Thank you everyone who contributed here, i have really enjoyed finding out what these aircraft were. cheers Pat I had fun with this thread as I am not hugely familiar with the period, but I was suprised that I knew some of the types. Having fun is what our hobby is about after all! More, more, more!!! DennisTheBear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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