Scary Skeeter - Aeroclub 1/72

[corsaircorp]

On 2/3/2020 at 1:10 PM, hendie said:

Ced joined the clu-ub. Ced joined the club!

 

There's no going back now Ced. 

Thanks !

I know now

 

Go on Ced !!

Scary kits are the ones you will cherish the most....

After a lot of cursing and other funny inapropriate words...

Sincerely.

CC

[hendie]

1 hour ago, CedB said:

Sorry about the dodgy photos, hard to get focus in the right place.

 

Sounds like you need a new soldering iron Ced - speak to Bill

 

 

cockpit is looking the business now.  Fab job.

[The Spadgent]

Belts look good. Greeblies look good. It’s all looking pretty damn good. Can I smell paint on the horizon? 🤩

 

Jont

[Harley John]

_{Stunning work Ced. Looks the biz.}

[Terry1954]

That cockpit really is the bee's knees. That's the best I can do given that Tomo @Tomoshenko has already recently used the dogs reproductive analogy in another rather good helicopter thread.........

 

Terry

[Space Ranger]

11 hours ago, The Spadgent said:

You could sell boxes of HD parts. “Mr B’s Box o’ Delights”.  🤣

I'd buy one!

[CedB]

Thanks Giorgio, Roger, Ben, CC, Johnny, John, Terry and Michael  

 

19 hours ago, hendie said:

 

Sounds like you need a new soldering iron Ced - speak to Bill

 

 

cockpit is looking the business now.  Fab job.

Ah, camera mount, good idea Hendie, that might help stop wobbly photos  

 

 

Greebie morning.

Start of the ?power sockets:

 

 

Landing light:

 

 

Nav lights, Hmmm.

I got out the 'Nigel swords' for the colour, realised they're too tiny but used the profile of the tips:

 

 

…to get something close:

 

Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr

 

Can you see them?

No?

Quite.

[giemme]

I can see them   

 

You said you are going to brush paint this, right? Smart choice   Looking forward to it

 

Ciao

[CedB]

Thanks Giorgio  Yep, brush painting. Masking would be too hard for me.

 

Speaking of which, I was going to use Filmoplast tape to make the framing but then I looked at this:

 

 

… which I have to model on this:

 

 

Well, actually on the canopy which has now been stuck on with Formula 560.

I think the best way might be to cut some Aluminium Repair Tape (ART) as it'll be easier to design and adjust the shape in software rather than trying to mask it or paint it.

 

I've taken some photos for the design, like this:

 

 

 

Later.

[giemme]

11 minutes ago, CedB said:

… which I have to model on this:

 

 Interesting: that gives you a nasty seam line to sort, between the vacformed clear part and the fuselage. 

 

Ciao

[Brandy]

Since you have a silhouette cutter, would it not be easier to design and cut the masks then spray it? It's obvious that the clear panels don't follow the edges of the vac canopy part.

 

Ian

[perdu]

When this kit owned me I seriously considered masking off all the windows and door frame rails then dipping in Klear/Clear or another clear shiny finish of choice and then spraying the forward pod/fuselage with Halfords Hi-Build as used on my S-61N

 

With enough layers to level off the doors and windows it might have worked

 

Might

 

 

n.b.  for clear and honest reporting I have to add that so far it has not been a spectacular success for me

 

Looks like you are going to nail it though Ced

 

Nice one

[CedB]

52 minutes ago, giemme said:

 Interesting: that gives you a nasty seam line to sort, between the vacformed clear part and the fuselage. 

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio  Not as nasty as it seems on the close up photos, thankfully, but it will need some attention.

35 minutes ago, limeypilot said:

Since you have a silhouette cutter, would it not be easier to design and cut the masks then spray it? It's obvious that the clear panels don't follow the edges of the vac canopy part.

 

Ian

6 minutes ago, perdu said:

When this kit owned me I seriously considered masking off all the windows and door frame rails then dipping in Klear/Clear or another clear shiny finish of choice and then spraying the forward pod/fuselage with Halfords Hi-Build as used on my S-61N

 

With enough layers to level off the doors and windows it might have worked

 

Might

[snip pic]

 

n.b.  for clear and honest reporting I have to add that so far it has not been a spectacular success for me

 

Looks like you are going to nail it though Ced

 

Nice one

Both good ideas Ian and Bill, but I've already started on the ART route (see below)  

 

 

Sadly I had the settings wrong and the tape caught on the blade:

 

 

Despite that I pressed on and pressed the lower frame on:

 

 

and on the other side.

 

I'll paint the tape and see how it looks before I sort the blending.

[perdu]

I perferr your method me hearty

 

Going to be fine

[andyf117]

Very neat solution!

[keefr22]

7 hours ago, CedB said:

 

 

Did I miss you re-vacforming the canopy Ced, cos that looks brilliant!

 

Nice door masks too!

 

Keith

[Murdo]

[rob Lyttle]

Dear Ced, 

Where do you get those big comedy rulers with the really big millimeter markings?? 

 

I've just had a quick catch up with this. 

You're gonna need therapy after this 'un! 

You know, where you all sit in a group circle and when it's your turn, you gotta say

"Hi, my name is Ced..... and I build helicopters....." 

In fact, there's enough of you here to make a self-help group. 

Right, let's have a count - Everybody who's building a helicopter put your hand up......!! 🧚‍♂️🧚‍♀️🚁🚁🚁🙈

[perdu]

✋

[CedB]

14 hours ago, perdu said:

I perferr your method me hearty

 

Going to be fine

11 hours ago, andyf117 said:

Very neat solution!

Thanks Bill and Andy  

I thought so, but when I burnished the tape down it really highlighted the canopy seam so I've had to pull it off again.

I'll have a ponder but I think, if I extend the tape for the whole door to avoid joins, it will be difficult to apply.

I think Ian's idea of cutting a window mask for this area and using Filmoplast for the rest might be easier.

 

8 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

Did I miss you re-vacforming the canopy Ced, cos that looks brilliant!

 

Nice door masks too!

 

Keith

Thanks Keith  I'm using the kit canopy, much better than my efforts! 

 

7 hours ago, Murdo said:

Thanks Murdo  

 

6 hours ago, rob Lyttle said:

Dear Ced, 

Where do you get those big comedy rulers with the really big millimeter markings?? 

 

I've just had a quick catch up with this. 

You're gonna need therapy after this 'un! 

You know, where you all sit in a group circle and when it's your turn, you gotta say

"Hi, my name is Ced..... and I build helicopters....." 

In fact, there's enough of you here to make a self-help group. 

Right, let's have a count - Everybody who's building a helicopter put your hand up......!! 🧚‍♂️🧚‍♀️🚁🚁🚁🙈

 I think you're right Rob - it'll be nice to get back to something larger!

[AdrianMF]

The cockpit looks fab. If you are sticking the tape on does that mean that the inside is going to be silver?

 

Regards,

Adrian

[perdu]

Helicopters don't have to be tiny Ced

 

Jus' sayin'

 

The interface between transparency and plastic can be handled a few ways

 

The lower window position could be masked whilst you fill the joints to your heart's content and sand it smooth using PPP

 

The reasonably prominent door panel could be handled by overlaying it then emphasising the door-ness of it all, I did that on my Auster

 

As I mentioned earlier

 

Jus' sayin'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First protect the windows, fill the seams, paint the interior first

 

Easy

 

ISH!

 

 

 

[CedB]

1 hour ago, AdrianMF said:

The cockpit looks fab. If you are sticking the tape on does that mean that the inside is going to be silver?

 

Regards,

Adrian

Wow, now that's what I call proper thinking! Thanks Adrian, you've just saved me from one of the biggest mistakes I could have made!

Can you imagine my reaction when, after applying all the tape to frame the canopy, I looked inside and saw all that silver!

Terrifying…

Thanks again!

 

16 minutes ago, perdu said:

Helicopters don't have to be tiny Ced

[snip pic]

 

Jus' sayin'

Ah, now then, attractive the size may be but look at all those greeblies!  

 

16 minutes ago, perdu said:

The interface between transparency and plastic can be handled a few ways

 

The lower window position could be masked whilst you fill the joints to your heart's content and sand it smooth using PPP

Thanks Bill, the PPP will be going on later  

 

16 minutes ago, perdu said:

The reasonably prominent door panel could be handled by overlaying it then emphasising the door-ness of it all, I did that on my Auster

[snip pic]

 

As I mentioned earlier

 

Jus' sayin'

 

First protect the windows, fill the seams, paint the interior first

 

Easy

 

ISH!

Ah, the lovely Auster. I might do one of those if my visit to the HAAF instils some enthusiasm (and I can find a kit!)

My problem is that the join between the vacform and the plastic over the door isn't on the real thing so I'll have to make sure it's 'well prepared' as suggested.

 

I tested the cutter settings on the foil again this morning - better. I'll use these:

 

Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr

 

to mask the door lower windows then rip them off.

 

I've put an initial coat of Colourcoats DG on some Filmoplast:

 

 

Another coat later. I'm hoping that the paint won't effect the glue on this stuff - we shall see.

 

I've also drilled the holes for the u/c:

 

 

Hmmm. Definitely not a tail sitter but I'm going to have to check references for the leg dangle angles.

[Heather Kay]

6 minutes ago, CedB said:

Ah, the lovely Auster. I might do one of those if my visit to the HAAF instils some enthusiasm (and I can find a kit!)

AZ Model does one in 1/72. I’ve got one on the shelf. It definitely doesn’t fit in my 1940 theme, but Best Beloved used to fly in one in his younger days. I said I’d build him a model of the civvy one. 

[Andwil]

7 minutes ago, CedB said:

Ah, now then, attractive the size may be but look at all those greeblies!  

As far as I can tell, it’s the greeblies that are the attraction!

 

Great work detailing this tiny helicopter, as someone who has also started to explore the scratching of small details I know how difficult it can be to avoid things looking clumsy and over scale, something you are doing with aplomb.

 

AW