davepb 245 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi, the time has come to start my first Work in Progress, as promised to several people who have provided me with information on Flower Class Corvettes over the last few weeks. First an explanation of the title, “A bunch of Mackem flowers!” I was raised in Sunderland, whose natives are referred to as “Mackems”, a shortened version of ‘Mackem and Tackem’ in reference to Sunderland could be explained by the two principal forms of employment in 19th century Sunderland. The census of 1851 showed that sailors and shipbuilders formed by far the biggest workforce in Sunderland at that time. ‘Mackems’ could quite easily be the shipbuilders who made the ships and ‘Tackems’ the sailors who took them out to sea. In any case it is better than “Monkeyhanger”, the term addressed to people from Hartlepool. I was born in Hartlepool, and rather like the name (https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Hanging-of-the-Hartlepool-Monkey/) As it happens, the Flower Class were designed on the Tees, and HMS Heliotrope K 03 was one of the earlier vessels, and was built in Sunderland, along with the other two ships I intend to model, HMS Campion K 108 and HMS Burdock K 126, using the Revell 1/144 HMS Snowberry as my basis, along with accessories from Shapeways, Pontos and Eduard! I begin with HMS Heliotrope, when she still had a short foc’sle, then I intend to move on to HMS Campion with a long foc’sle but with the mast still forward of the bridge, and finish with HMS Burdock in her final form with mast abaft the bridge. I’ve started this WiP rather late in the day, having already made some progress on modifications to the hull. The images I used as reference material is from the Sunderland Museum Flikr account. And so, down to business The veneer is not glued down, just a trial piece before I work out how to mark out the planking. That's made a start! 12 Link to post Share on other sites
ArnoldAmbrose 2,692 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, davepb said: I’ve started this WiP rather late in the day, having already made some progress on modifications to the hull. Gidday Dave, I don't think it's ever too late to start a WIP thread, I've have in the past with the model already commenced. Doing three vessels, showing their development through the war will be interesting. Regards, Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi Jeff, Some pictures added. Hope to add more this week, when my eyes recover from injections! Link to post Share on other sites
robgizlu 5,975 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Watching with interest! Good luck with the injections Rob Link to post Share on other sites
JohnWS 3,341 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, robgizlu said: Watching with interest! Good luck with the injections Rob John Link to post Share on other sites
longshanks 10,387 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Now this is going to be interesting Hope all goes well with the treatment Kev Link to post Share on other sites
Courageous 11,317 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The usual crowd is here, must be something interesting. Stuart 1 Link to post Share on other sites
OutcastJoel 1,263 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I think I shall join the watching crowd. This should be fascinating! Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 Thanks Guys, no pressure then! Just noticed on the pictures that I'd dislodged a couple of the window bars on the wheelhouse. I had to make a new wheelhouse because the Revell item has eight windows across the front instead of the seven seen in photographs. The injections went well today, so I should be able to get some more work done tomorrow. Cheers 2 Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hi, I had a good close look at the work I'd done so far , and binned it! The well deck structures were not square, and the wheelhouse was oversize! I've ripped the lot off, , and I've finished the new well deck structures. Now for the wheelhouse! I'll get some pictures posted on Monday. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stevehnz 11,596 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hi Dave, this is one I'll try to keep up with, one of these is in my future with a Kiwi slant to it, so I'll be keen to see your solutions to problems along the way. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies 13,455 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, davepb said: Hi, I had a good close look at the work I'd done so far , and binned it! The well deck structures were not square, and the wheelhouse was oversize! I've ripped the lot off, , and I've finished the new well deck structures. Now for the wheelhouse! I'll get some pictures posted on Monday. Sometimes it happens Dave. I've gone back to look at things later and concluded that the previous efforts must have been me on Battery Saving Mode. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ArnoldAmbrose 2,692 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 17 hours ago, davepb said: Hi, I had a good close look at the work I'd done so far , and binned it! Gidday Dave, that's a pity but sometimes it's for the best. I believe that even failures can teach us something. If you had continued with work you're not happy with you could well regret it later, and never be completely satisfied with the final result. Sometimes one has to cut one's losses. Of course, instead of ditching the over-sized wheelhouse you could have put it aside and later built a larger ship for it! Looking forward to seeing further progress with this. Regards, Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites
Niall 316 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Could I suggest an alternate method of making the deckhouses with windows/portholes. Cut ther part in 20thou(0.5mm) card and stick this to the same thickness of sheet(use clear sheet if you want the windows transparent - probably not worth it in 1/350th scale. I used this techeque on a freelance design small coaster in 1/300th scale as a wargame model. 100_0448 by 1 Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Hi Niall, My thanks for the suggestion. I haven't adopted that method this time, as the wheelhouse has to support the compass platform Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 As promised, the rebuild of the bridge superstructure, and the welldeck bulkheads. I think there is an improvement, at least the angles are closer to true! Cheers 10 Link to post Share on other sites
beefy66 9,362 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Looks like this might be interesting even if it has a link to the Makems beefy Link to post Share on other sites
Murdo 1,653 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 That does look rather nice so far! Link to post Share on other sites
robgizlu 5,975 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Well done Dave - sorry to hear about Edition 1. As Jamie says - it happens - I spent 4 hours this morning - "planting" a stubble field as a dio and at the end it was just Pants Edition 2 looking good We are always our biggest critics. Keep it coming Rob 3 Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 Hi, Dose anyone produce decals in 1/144 Scale for the Draught Markings on Flower Class Corvettes. Both Black and White are required for some of the paint schemes. I could print my own in black, but I don't have the ability to print in White. Dave Link to post Share on other sites
Bugle07 1,040 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Great work so far Dave, will be following along to see how this goes. Have a look at Custom Decals products. They do imperial depth markings in White and Black self adhesive Vinyl in a variety of scales, closest being 1/150 or 1/124. No idea if they're any good for you but they seem to be the closest to 1/144 in a quick tinterweb search. https://www.activescalemodels.co.uk/custom-decals-and-flags/hull-depth-markings-1-150-imperial-and-metric-black Pretty sure a several of the other RC model companies will sell them as well. Geoff Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/1/2020 at 11:36 PM, Bugle07 said: Great work so far Dave, will be following along to see how this goes. Have a look at Custom Decals products. They do imperial depth markings in White and Black self adhesive Vinyl in a variety of scales, closest being 1/150 or 1/124. No idea if they're any good for you but they seem to be the closest to 1/144 in a quick tinterweb search. https://www.activescalemodels.co.uk/custom-decals-and-flags/hull-depth-markings-1-150-imperial-and-metric-black Pretty sure a several of the other RC model companies will sell them as well. Geoff Thanks for the tip Geoff, but I think the difference in scalewill be vry obvious against the waterline. I'll just have to find someone with an Alps type printer. I have had decals printed before, so I'll have to produce the artwork. I'm a bit slow in updating the pictures, but I hope to get some on this weekend. Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites
robgizlu 5,975 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Dave - I've had the same thoughts about decals If you do manage to get some made - I'd be very happy to purchase any extra? Rob Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 5:53 PM, robgizlu said: Dave - I've had the same thoughts about decals If you do manage to get some made - I'd be very happy to purchase any extra? Rob Hi Rob, sorry for the delay in responding. I've not forgotten , but I've been a little distracted lately! Cheers, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites
davepb 245 Posted May 11 Author Share Posted May 11 Two Pictures that show an unusual mounting of single Lewis Guns on the Quaterdeck of HMS Heliotrope. The first picture gives a good view of the mounting and footrests. Doess anyone know of decent 1/144 scale models of Lewis guns ( not Shapeways, they charge an exorbitant amount for shipping !!!) Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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