KonaDawg Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Hello all, This is probably going to be a long one. Waiting for the etched brass set to arrive from Aus, I thought I'd have a go at getting the undercoats and preparation done properly or as near as I can get to doing stuff like that properly. I bought a few primers and will do some test runs on the various brands (Mr Color 1500 black is looking good so far...) to see what goes best with the finish I've chosen. Really like the Hell Green Magno the road car was released in so bought Zero paints version of it and got the following results.. Confusing "very green" green on the lable. Well spotted! This isnt a GTR with a bad body kit...well, it is but more on that later. This is after about seven fine coats of green and no flat top coat. Even after sanding, the Tamiya grey primer is just that little bit rougher. The MrColor 1500 black surfacer is so smooth, I didnt see the need to sand it. On that subject, I used Tamiya's 2000 grit sanding sponges on the grey primer. They worked well but I find they have some pretty nasty random bits of "grain" that can gouge some pretty big scratches. Best to run it over some spare fossils first. My wire collects fossils. So.... on we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 This is the Colour I'm aiming for...... Its not looking good for the Zero paint so far but we'll see how it fares with a Matt top coat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Have you tried ZP own brand primer it lays down super smooth and in most cases doesn't need sanding. Below is a MK2 escort shell I primed yesterday, 4 light coats at 18 psi and no sanding required Just thought this might help Regards Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi Andy, That does look smooth. I've bought mr color 1500 grade in white so will be interesting to compare it with this. Not tried zp primer yet but ordering some more bits and pieces from Hiro soon so will include some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, KonaDawg said: Hi Andy, That does look smooth. I've bought mr color 1500 grade in white so will be interesting to compare it with this. Not tried zp primer yet but ordering some more bits and pieces from Hiro soon so will include some. Funnily enough I use 2 brands of primer on my car builds ZP and mr colour 1500. The 1500 black also passes off for a very nice semi gloss black on interiors etc. Nissan Skyline primed in 1500 black again very smooth finish. Based on my own experience the ZP and mr colour 1500 are the best available Regards Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Yeah, that's my conclusion so far as well Andy. I bought the black Amg gtr gt3 (can't remember the sponsor etc) but that black is really close the actual Matt/satin finish in the 1/1 scale car. Might finish it as that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, KonaDawg said: Yeah, that's my conclusion so far as well Andy. I bought the black Amg gtr gt3 (can't remember the sponsor etc) but that black is really close the actual Matt/satin finish in the 1/1 scale car. Might finish it as that one. Yep good call would look fine. Also a gloss clear on top of the 1500 black primer and you have a flawless gloss black finish which is not always easy to achieve with conventional methods. Because the 1500 lays down smooth you can decal on top of it then clear if you wish which is the way I prefer to do it. I will follow your build with interest 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Sounds promising 😊 I'll pull up a chair on your builds also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Just a small update. I don't think the Zero green has the right tone even after 8 coats. The pic below shows the result with an additional flat top coat. The pic below is a test piece sprayed with Gravity Colours version of the green To my eye at least, this is closer to the minty green on the 1/1 car. The zero green is really nice and will be used on another project but I think the gravity is the one to use this time. Edited February 6, 2020 by KonaDawg Images missing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Images now working... Edited February 6, 2020 by KonaDawg images missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 02/02/2020 at 12:00, Andy J said: Funnily enough I use 2 brands of primer on my car builds ZP and mr colour 1500. The 1500 black also passes off for a very nice semi gloss black on interiors etc. Nissan Skyline primed in 1500 black again very smooth finish. Based on my own experience the ZP and mr colour 1500 are the best available Regards Andy Hi @Andy J, just a quick question, I'm looking to see if I can order some around here, would that be the "Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, JeroenS said: Hi @Andy J, just a quick question, I'm looking to see if I can order some around here, would that be the "Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500"? These are the ones I use Jeroen just be sure to thin 50/50 with mr colour leveling thinner. Feel free to PM me if you require any further information 👍 Hope this helps Regards Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, KonaDawg said: Images now working... Yep the Gravity green is the better match slightly deeper in colour looking forward to seeing it on the shell 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srkirad Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Gravity Green is better match, and in my opinion black primer would give it better color depth. Test part was primered with black or grey Surfacer? Cheers, S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, Andy J said: Hope this helps Regards Andy Yep, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaDawg Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, srkirad said: Gravity Green is better match, and in my opinion black primer would give it better color depth. Test part was primered with black or grey Surfacer? Cheers, S. Hey srkirad, The Gravity painted part was undercoated in MrSurfacer light grey 1500. I will do a test over black primer as well. I agree, it might add a bit of extra depth. Not convinced it needs a matt coat as they recommend though. The paint on the real car is closer to a semi-matt/satin than pure matt finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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