corsaircorp Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Great job on the interiors Dear Colleague. I'll bet for the same flare pistol... The Belvedere is not old enough for a black powder musket... Just sayin !! Congrats !! Sincerely. CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Hi again Bill, Those attachment points above the seats are to hold the seats vertical when folded up. Each seat had a turn-release waist strap, similar to the Wessex belts. The crewman had a turn-release waist strap attached to his seat. When out of the seat, he used a standalone harness (See the location fit in the paratrooping drawing) which was connected to a long canvas strap that fitted to the opposite (port) bulkhead. Here is a view of the configuration when used in the paratrooping role. The crewman's harness is No.24, with the long canvass strap leading off to the port bulkhead. This would be visible with the door open. Plus, some other items which you may have missed out!! Note item No.9 in the front cabin, it is a "funnel, urinary" with No. 10 being the "container" No sign of a Verey's Pistol, or holster, though. Mike 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 So from Mike's fabulous diagram we get three stations for urinary purposes, driver and buddy get one each Reasonable I suppose and there is one more in the big cabin, "shouldn't have joined if you can't take..." There is already an extinguisher on one of the cabin walls and the crewman's seat has its little firm pad (looks quite wooden to me, glad I am not using it) Looks as if the seat belts get stowed out of the way under the seat in that canvas cover, handy short cut huh Eye bolt under each seat to attach the seat belt to the airframe too, invaluable stuff for my archives thanks There MUST be a flare pistol, basic SOP if nothing else and your picture from the restoration shows the cartridge stowage alongside a black metal frame which I am inferring to be the holster holder The higher bracket above the port side seating could well be the attachment point for the crewman's wandering about harness too, so I won't worry about that Maybe the green brackets next to the front seat are to hold urinary devices? Pondering that very lightly... There will be a cable cover running along the roof but to be fair not a lot of point overscale detailing the innards so there isnt going to be much more OK pressing on, see y'all tomorrow 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Wouldn’t like to the bloke sitting next to the urinary funnel 🥴 AW 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Lovely work Bill, really coming together now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Looking superb Bill, and top marks for Mike (bootneck) for his continued and excellent source references and diagrams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 23 hours ago, Andwil said: Wouldn’t like to the bloke sitting next to the urinary funnel 🥴 AW ESPECIALLY with an open cabin door! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Space Ranger said: ESPECIALLY with an open cabin door! How about if you are driving? 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 17:50, andyf117 said: I note that the young teenage punk second from left missed the whole thing. Head down - texting no doubt! 🤔 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Probably checking his camera settings as this event preceded mobile phones by about 30 years. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Interesting schematic of the seats. So they didn't fold up, but the rear part was disconnected from the "down" mount and reconnected to the "stowed" one! No such thing as a quick change out then! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, bootneck said: Probably checking his camera settings as this event preceded mobile phones by about 30 years. Sorry, I don’t understand... A time before mobile phones?!? 😳 And what are ‘camera settings’? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 15 hours ago, perdu said: How about if you are driving? Don't know about you, but I was taught to keep both hands on the wheel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hmm, two sticks and two drivers... Seems like a possibility for a little light 'relief' under weigh to me Any road up, I have been doing things up front as well as suffering badly down the back with Tamiya tape sticking where I don't want it Mostly on the tips of my pointy tweezers, doh! Rethink in (slow) progress on that front but here we have the driver's seat under construction A short length of GPO telephone wire from the innards of the plug in my garage taken away when my whole telephone connection was decreed mediaeval and replaced in another room near my computer router I now have about seventy feet of single strand wire which solders beautifully when I take the skin (insulation) off And a Weller soldering station who's soldering iron has given up its heat ablating layer, broke it is! so we do this one this way ( A new soldering iron is on its way from the bay) The looped wire is fitted with a styrene back rest and a seat pan ready for brace tube to be added, the co-pilot's seat is a different shape and seems to be cut away allowing access to the tunnel back to the cabin This is carved from the typical Airfix 1960 pair of seats supplied, the ejector mark is only there in the oddball plastic Airfix used back then which carries pigment changes where things have been altered, no doubt others who have enjoyed working on the plastic will corroborate In fact the seat is smooth and bears no actual ridges round the ejector mark weird To operate on such fragile asemblies I was using a sanding pad's soft foam interior to grip the wire, this made it easy to lie the assembly down to accept the cross braces two pieces of straightened telephone wire were used to make the braces, all held in place with Cockpit Glue formula 560 Like so The 560 will shrink a little as it sets and will grip like a g'rilla This assembly can now be painted blacks*, and a dark green leather seat cushion added and then the blue harness straps *one semishiny for the tubes and one dark mattish for the seat backrest, this will then get a drybrushing with Klear to lift the black out of the darkness Now I am off to make a coffee and get the daily rag, sees ya laters 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Now that's neat! Good to know Formula 560 is useful for this kind of stuff too, BTW 👍 4 minutes ago, perdu said: and get the daily rag I only know one meaning of the word "rag", and it doesn't fit with your sentence .... 😕 I hope is a good thing, though ... Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, giemme said: Now that's neat! Good to know Formula 560 is useful for this kind of stuff too, BTW 👍 I only know one meaning of the word "rag", and it doesn't fit with your sentence .... 😕 I hope is a good thing, though ... Ciao Rag = Newspaper. Especially of the sensationalist tabloid variety. AW 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, Andwil said: Rag = Newspaper. Especially of the sensationalist tabloid variety. Thanks AW - do they still exist? Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, giemme said: Thanks AW - do they still exist? Ciao Oh most certainly G, lots of rubbish to choose from too I base my choice on favourite comic cartoon strips, whatever other criteria would matter? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, perdu said: I base my choice on favourite comic cartoon strips, whatever other criteria would matter? Fair enough, absolutely reasonable criteria Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Great work on the seats Bill, they're looking good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 A splash, or two, of colour The splash of white is a thread of Formula 560 filling in a gap so I can touch in the blacky black later. The green seat pads are quite clearly shown in many of the cockpit photos I have, so green it were. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Ah just to prove you shouldn't leave me anywhere near an opened, messed about with model So much filler that I would probably have gotted away with too... Hasegawa/Frog Lightning F6 still happening slowly 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 19:14, bootneck said: No sign of a Verey's Pistol, or holster, though. Hi again Bill, I've just got back from the Helicopter Museum and I have been able check through the manuals to find more detail for you, especially about the signal/flare gun, holster and cartridge locations. I'll put the detail together and post it later this evening for you. Mike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thank you Mike, that is brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Well the Wessex had a proper holster. Just saying. That black frame, could it be for a first aid kit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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