Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Tap-tap-tap... every time. It’s a muscle memory. But I’m fairly sure that the computer then automatically “corrects” it to the ellipse character anyway. So you’re both right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Less fuss than "hold Alt down and type 0133" for sure My non-Mac disputer does not autocorrect three dots though Such a worry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Paint makes a difference, huh? A natural inference is that I have a bulkhead in 'not quite the right' position here. Seat frames are mounted between adjacent pairs of ribs judging by the excellent pictures put up by @bootneck so that it would be logical not to have spare rib positions without seat locations. There are said to be eighteen personnel in a full load which might mean ten seats down the port side where the hole for the door isnt and eight down the starboard side Now with the best will in the world I am not going to allow potential seat counters to spoil my fun here Ten seats to port will allow unused locations, well why not there is already an anomalous seat in the first three isn't there? So oddball spaces and 'stated but not shown' seats down the right hand side There will be a few near the door, the dark hole down the back will remain dark Seats MAY be put in there... Geddit? And for giggles up on the green cutting board, the loadie's deckchair begins... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Nice seats Bill Ellipses? I use these a lot as you know... three taps now ‘cos I’m on the iPad, Option+: on the Mac keyboard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, perdu said: There are said to be eighteen personnel in a full load which might mean ten seats down the port side where the hole for the door isnt and eight down the starboard side Here you go Bill, This diagram shows the arrangements for cargo, troop carrying, air-casevac and internal long-range fuel tanks. cheers Mike 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 WOW Now that is one I have been unable to find on the web Mike, it's brilliant Thank you sir, another Bootneck godsend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 And blimey, my guesses were not so far off either The missing ones starboard side were intended to be missing, down in the darkened 'ole I have taken two from the back, port side and filled the spaces at the front by the door and after I finish the deck chair and final polish the windows I am going to close it up Bootneck inspired progress huh Cheers 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Guessing those internal arrangements illustrations are 'not to scale' - otherwise, it'd take some pretty skinny nurses/medical orderlies to squeeze between the stretchers! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, perdu said: A philosophical question for all the type-writers out here Ellipsises This version from the character bank … … … ? Or the traditional hit stop three times method ... ... ...? … ... … ... … ... ? (This question arises from a discussion with the touch typist in the family, shared thoughts might help) Ellipsis: Three spaced dots. Period. (Speaking as a former newspaper editor and book editor for Squadron/Signal Publications.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: Ellipsis: Three spaced dots. Period. Quite agree, however the character map from Microsoft spaces the dots automatically but takes up less space I have been wondering why they would bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, perdu said: Quite agree, however the character map from Microsoft spaces the dots automatically but takes up less space I have been wondering why they would bother? Microsoft does it because they can. The Mac ellipsis command may do the same. I dunno. I never measured it. The spacing of the dots may vary according to the program and font in which it is used. A proportional font will automatically adjust. And most page layout programs (PageMaker, QuarkXPress, InDesign, etc.) and graphic design programs (Illustrator, Corel) allow for adjustment of kerning (character spacing) in order to make the text fit the available space or look better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, perdu said: traditional hit stop three times method This Looking great so far Bill. Those seats look bob-on. Edited February 21, 2020 by chrislowe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Right fine OK No sorry not you lot just a carry over in my head (dodgy place to lurk by the way) about stuff Anyway, time for interior additions Look please The fixtures above the seats, does anyone believe there is even the slightest chance they would have diagonal shoulder straps fitted to some of them? I cannot convince myself so unless the jury delivers a response tonight it is going to be lap belts only for the brown jobs I have been racking my memories for colours of seat belts in the sixties, my first flight was courtesy of 8AEF at Shawbury in '62 This was not a difficult thing to remember, whitey grey for the chute with a 'twist before hitting it' latch and blue with a simple twist latch for the seat belt This is understood but in August '62 my ATC sqn were at RAF Colerne for summer camp and very long duration flights in HP Hastingses I have a vague memory of odd lap belts in grey fabric with square lift to release latches, does this jibe with anyone else's knowledge of the times I am not sure whether the helicopter pax would get 'twist to release' blue belts or something less exotic [WILL THE COLLECTIVE VOTE NOW] Grey almost airliney or blue definitely RAF crew belts? [ ] [ ] I was not going to but now am, fit the upper channel up in the ceiling but no way am I fitting ninety five ribs across the roof The channel will fill the eye enough me reckons One or two seats to adjust and a few more bits to hang on the walls but this is basically awaiting YOUR input please Will the loadie have belts? Must do mustn't he? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Sorry I can't be of any help, Bill - still, the interiors look great to me Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 They look like something to hook the seats up on, rather than belt anchorages, is that not a seat hanging from the raised set next to the window? Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, perdu said: I was not going to but now am, fit the upper channel up in the ceiling but no way am I fitting ninety five ribs across the roof Why not? Martian the Mischievous 👽 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Er, wibble? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 wish I could offer some suggestions BIll, but I'd just be making things up. So I'll just sit quietly here at the back until someone who knows what they're talking about comes along. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Wasn't the crash during a practice display for the '61 Farnborough SBAC Show because the troops weren't strapped in, and tumbled to the rear of the cabin during a steep approach flare, thereby causing loss of control due to sudden CoG shift? Some injuries as a result, but none serious, fortunately... Edited February 24, 2020 by andyf117 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Hmm, could be There are no obvious attachments on the seats or the airframe for straps after all Perhaps I will add the flare pistol rack and close her up Thanks again Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, andyf117 said: Ouch. That’s not good. Main rotor blade decidedly adjacent to unyielding earth stuff. Never seen that picture before. [Some smokin’ fashions on display, too]. I’d be amazed if a helicopter of that vintage had more than lap belts, Bill. Standard blue lap straps with the circular black latch thingy, as per Wessex, Sea King, and no doubt “many many more” [apologies for sounding like a Ronco advert]. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 I think I will go withyour suggestion Crisp even if it means lots of work for me before shutting the halves I was peering through my photo files (seeking flare pistol boxes on helicopter walls, i.e. on the rear wall of the Wessex cabin) when my scrolling eye noticed this one Ah I thought, look it is one from Hendie's fabulous 1/48 scale Wessex https://i.postimg.cc/wT5D0DZf/0141287.jpg Turns out that it wasn't but the casual eye was fooled Sorry it HAS to be a link but rules is rules and in this case very fair ones Anyway, the hunt for the flare pistol in its box continues There's one there somewhere or I wouldnt know about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, perdu said: There are no obvious attachments on the seats or the airframe for straps after all Perhaps I will add the flare pistol rack and close her up Hi Bill, Those attachment points above the seats are to hold the seats vertical when folded up. Each seat had a turn-release waist strap, similar to the Wessex belts. The crewman had a turn-release waist strap; plus a standalone harness belt (with I think three loop through fastening straps) which was connected to a long canvas strap that fitted to the opposite (port) bulkhead. I haven't found the flare pistol rack yet but I'm still searching for that detail. I shall dig out more tantalising snippets and post some images for you, so don't seal her up yet!! cheers, Mike 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Dohhhhh Just when I thunk it was safe to get in the water Kidding Mike mate thank you, I will wait ta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Anyway I did find this in my Wessex archive top left of screen a pistol in a black holster with a press stud retainer Light metal pistol visible inside said holder Should I expect much different in the Belvedere? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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