perdu Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Tried that but it was too complex for my little heid Alan did this instead in Paint Allow grid guides Draw along them with the shapes tool set on line Altered the colour to a slight contrast with the interior green (can be altered to suit obviously) Then imported a small image which was introduced to Word as a picture and pushed and pulled until it fit the fuselage I think I can now print a transfer that will add contrast to a green interior wall on to the next conundrum huh? This will run over the ceiling too and will only need a few upper rib formers popping in place where they can be spied from the doorway next... 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Sorry Bill, I can't help in this computer matter... I'm bored enough with the cars computers.... Then I'm still a ruler and pencils guy... a kind of dinosaur in fact... My kids laugh very oftenly about that.... Hey Pete, I'll pretend that I did'nt read your post about about snuffle beer... C'm on and join the fray at Telford 2021... For the dogs... Tsss !! Where are a lot of dogs here on BM... 10 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: I do like the Belvedere. Tried to persuade 2 short run manufacturers to try one in 1/48. They said no, commercial suicide. Shame. A 1/48 Belvedere...Take my money, I'll wait for it... Sincerely. CC 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Here we go, beyond my pay grade again. I can cut and paste, That's enough for me. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Find me a picture flat enough to cut and paste that looked a bit like the innards I would be delighted to cut and paste MS Paint which is given away in Windows is getting to be quite a capable graphics tool and I keep forgetting that simple fact 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Splendid buck-artistry Bill. Have one of these tucked away on the shelf myself so delighted for an opportunity to crib ideas from thou here. Great idea on visuals for the interior in transfer form. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Perdu beats the software - again! Good stuff Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Been doing something similar for my Sea Kings - using GIMP II, made a page of cabin roofs, with variations as appropriate... ....but rather than transfers, they're simply printed onto thin card, and fixed in position with PVA glue - couple of examples: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Basically plan A I think Andy, the innards of the Bilvedere are so indelibly marked by my earlier attempts at scoring the lines that I decided to do that last night Tryout this weekend methinks I have just redrawn the stringer and rib lines, though on examination the horizontal lines might not be stringers but rivetted skin folds, it seems What does the team think? This is the interior of the forward engine bay, I believe this is the one at the Helicopter Museum undergoing a rebuild I think there must be a way the bods in the back can chat to the bods in the front, that black composition piece on the left of the bay looks like a floor to me So next, the front bulkhead... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, perdu said: I have just redrawn the stringer and rib lines, though on examination the horizontal lines might not be stringers but rivetted skin folds, it seems Very hard to say for certain from the photo but I reckon you might be on to something there. AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, andyf117 said: Been doing something similar for my Sea Kings - using GIMP II, made a page of cabin roofs, with variations as appropriate... ....but rather than transfers, they're simply printed onto thin card, and fixed in position with PVA glue - couple of examples: What mk you building there Andy,?....yellow? Wheres the sea tray? Confused 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, perdu said: Basically plan A I think Andy, the innards of the Bilvedere are so indelibly marked by my earlier attempts at scoring the lines that I decided to do that last night I think there must be a way the bods in the back can chat to the bods in the front, that black composition piece on the left of the bay looks like a floor to me Well if Plan A doesn't work, and Plan B won't because of Plan A, there's always Plan C (for Card)... Fairly sure that is a floor you can see - wasn't the bulge on the port side where a passageway was, allowing access past the engine to and from the cockpit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, junglierating said: What mk you building there Andy,?....yellow? Wheres the sea tray? Confused Grey Whale - so over-painted Yellow! You can just see the forward edge of the sea tray under the seats - better views back in the build thread here: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235035890-revell-172-sea-king-har3-completed-twice/&do=findComment&comment=3024196 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Hello Bill, Look what I found while working... Who said that barnfind are dead today... Do you know this one ?? This Mustang is now an organ donor... The guy has another 'Stang and a Torino... Amazing... Sincerely. CC 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 pot sidevalve Ford? The tail looks too light for a Pilot so I will have to give up Cracking find though With the Bilvedere I gave the printed interior wall a test run Not card but slightly heavy envelope paper (I had a few dozen A4+ sized envelopes left after finishing an AA project just before the sat nav hit the streets so lots of raw materials) What do you think? Thinking of adding a few of the ribs just in front of the doorway where they will be visible, ditto along the ceiling 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonH Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Well, stuff sitting at the back of the bar mumbling into my beer and eating stale peanuts, I'm elbowing my way to the front and ordering a fresh ale and meat pie with extra chips. Good work old chap (or young, I don't know you that well and it's hard to tell from here), I am going to enjoy the vicarious pleasures of your build. Now, where did I leave my pork scratchings? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Nice to have you along Don, advice from an old man (very old) 'Get as near the front as you can, then you can tell the bloke behind instead of being him and keep having to ask' The Crafty Fox ran out on Tuesday, hopefully Pete will be bringing fresh supplies soon but there's plenty of ABK Hell on tap, getting ABK Fels in on Friday too Now I have to find a supplier of Gators Grip, mine is running empty and giving up the ghost 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, perdu said: With the Bilvedere I gave the printed interior wall a test run Not card but slightly heavy envelope paper (I had a few dozen A4+ sized envelopes left after finishing an AA project just before the sat nav hit the streets so lots of raw materials) What do you think? That green might be a bit too green, but otherwise looking good... ....re-reading the earlier posts, deducing that the original Plan A gave way to a new Plan A, which I was calling Plan C? Plan B, is, of course, a hip-hop artist... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 GIMP (Gnu image manipulation er tool) would be the software of choice, it's free and much more powerful than paint (think Photoshop and Illustrator combined) but it does have a very steep learning curve if you're not computery ( I made that one up) I do love your decal approach to the interior detail. Must subvert it to some of my future builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Gator's Grip running out? Don't panic! I can't find UK stock after a quick search. Perhaps we should put an order in to the maker? If shipping is an expense issue perhaps we could club together and get a supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Sure I saw a range of Gator Glue only a week or two ago - possibly in Lidl? EDIT: Cancel that - getting my Gators and Gorillas mixed up! Edited January 30, 2020 by andyf117 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Modelling Tools OOS No takers on the 'bay so I will be giving my LMS a look see but I fear the import our own supplies route may be the way to go Let's see huh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Apologies for the lateness of my arrival, Burns Suppers eh! The season lasts for ever up here. Ooh another heli-me-whirlygig thingy. I'll sit in the more lessons in the black arts the better before I ever embark on my Airfix Puma & Sea King. Don't suppose there's anything dry, white and mostly grapes behind the bar? Chilean or New Zealand I'm not too fussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Taking a hint from Mr Martin we have a very fine Chilean Pinot Grigio, must be OK HJ the gaffer drinks it The side wall colour having been found wanting I am tediously redrawing the lines again in a more greyly green laters folks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, perdu said: The side wall colour having been found wanting I am tediously redrawing the lines again in a more greyly green Can you not just 'select all' and adjust the colour? Or copy & paste in a different shade? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 MS Paint, if you know how do please show me Least complex method please Each rectangle of colour has to be altered because each is a basic part of the image It aint Photoshop but my computer hates Adobe software or it would be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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