Leander999 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Hello! I hate to be 'that new guy' coming in with the same question as everyone else, but I really cant seem to find a definite answer. Ive been lookin around, and see a lot of people recommending the Iwatas for a first as they're cheap and decent, but I'm curious if Id be able to do what Im planning to with it. Im looking for an overall airbrush, as it will be my only one for completing all the tasks. I plan on doing everything from Basecoats, paintjobs, camopaintjobs, Mottling and varnishes. Is it even doable with only one airbrush? or would I have to get more of them for different tasks? I forgot to mention that I will mainly be building 1/48 scale aircraft. perhaps some 1/24 cars later. Looking forward to hear if anyones got any opinion or experience! -Leander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwh548 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 H&S Ultra 2in1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Hi, The first thing you need to decide is how much your budget is. Assuming you are after something that is good quality. If you are after a good quality entry level double action airbrush, the Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2in1 is a good starter brush. It has two different paint cups, 2ml & 5ml and it also had two different nozzle sets. A 0.2mm for small area and details and a 0.4mm for priming and area coverage. UK price is £85. https://www.modellingtools.co.uk/hs-ultra-2in1br---02mm-04mm-nozzle-and-v20-needles--2ml-5ml-paint-cups-3703-p.asp Traditional double action brushes can take a while to master, another option is a brush with much less of a learning curve. The Sparmax GP-35 is a double action trigger airbrush with a side fed paint cup. You pull the trigger back until you feel resistance; this opens the air feed. Then you pull the trigger back more to let the paint flow, the more you pull it back the more paint flows. UK price is £90 https://www.modellingtools.co.uk/sparmax-gp-35-3723-p.asp We sell loads of both of these, personally I prefer the Sparmax GP-35. The H&S brush strips down for cleaning/maintenance without any tools, the Sparmax is usually just flushed through to clean & the needle wiped. Paul Edited January 23, 2020 by little-cars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander999 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Thank you! Theres a pretty cheap used Ultra locally, so that might be it then. The triggervariant sure looks tempting, but I'd rather learn the traditional way as there seems to be way more alternatives later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwh548 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Careful. The old nozzles had a tendency to crack and the needle tips were prone to wear. With the price of new needle and nozzle sets (and eventually a full seal kit) it might be cheaper to just get a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I'd agree, buy a new needle & nozzle, it doesn't cost much, but they are the parts that get damaged. And you then have spares if you ever need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander999 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 I see. I initially didn't think they were this delicate instruments, but I'll def reconsider getting a new one. Thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I've owned a H&S Ultra and an Iwata Neo. If I were to choose from those two again, it would definitely be Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNosers352nd Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Guess I will be the odd man out on this one. Mine wasn't the Ultra, but I sold by H&S Silverline 2-in-1. Going back to Iwata (or GSI Creos). Love my Iwata HP-BCS (upgraded to 0.35 from 0.5), other than the separate cup being loose (old airbrush age thing). Can make it run circle around the H&S. H&S fought me every time even with a version 2 needle and nozzle. Probably go with an Iwata HP-B Plus (0.2) and something else for a little wide pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 As above, I prefer Iwata's, wouldn't bother with the neo though, that's not made in Japan I also have a couple of Tamiya sprayworks airbushes .2 & .3 they are as good as the Iwata's and can be got quite cheap direct from Japan, even with the vat and royal mail charges added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 hours ago, bmwh548 said: The old nozzles had a tendency to crack and the needle tips were prone to wear I consider needles and nozzles as near-consumables. I always have at least one extra set on-hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwh548 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Well.....I've yet to replace a needle and a nozzle on any of my airbrushes. I should replace one of the needles on my Ultra, but a quick polish always restores it so no hurry there. Edit: I was trying to give him the heads up as he could pick a second hand Ultra with a cracked nozzle and ruin his experience (and potentially add significant cost by replacing the needle-nozzle set exceeding the cost of buying a new airbrush in the first place). Edited January 24, 2020 by bmwh548 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Same here, never yet damaged or broken a needle/nozzle on any of my airbrushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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