John Masters Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I am currently away from the bench but when I get home this afternoon I’ll get some pictures up. I will be using a basic 1/72 scale Revell Fokker with aftermarket decals, resin ski conversion and a set of white metal Spandaus to replace the box set. To answer the next question: yes! splinter camouflage! I have been waiting to build this aircraft for quite a while! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hi John Great choice, having googled what it would look like you appear to have a few options to choose from, so looking forward to seeing which one you go with. Good luck with the build. cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Excellent subject choice John. Never knew there were D.VII in Finnish service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Here are the required starting points... The kit is the basic Revell Fokker of white plastic. Having built one or two of these before I know I will only be using the fuselage and wings (after sanding down the terrible 'fabric' texture) and scratch building the struts. Ah yes..Aeroclub Spandaus...and the resin skis...I will scavenge an axle airfoil from the spares box and scratch the struts from Evergreen, like the rest of them. And here is the profile. The other profile is for a Fokker with wheels and a different set of markings. I like the splinter camo. Soon I will tuck into three kits and three Group Builds! --John Edited January 19, 2020 by John D.C. Masters 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Col. said: Excellent subject choice Thanks Col. I think there were at least two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 I just noticed that the profile looks as if the Fokker is unarmed. Hmmm...I might have to research this a bit. 1923 was long after the Finnish Civil War and before animosities began with the Soviets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Cool choice john. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hewy said: Cool choice john. Thanks Hewy I found this image from aerofile dot info...It doesn't look armed to me. --John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjorn Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Neat. I have seen this on a decal sheet and wanted have ut. Very glad to see it being built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srkirad Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Camouflage scheme is a killer! And the skies are ❤️ Good luck with build - I built it in 2018, and scratched whole of the cockpit as it was basically inexistent... Cheers, S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 welcome along John with a unusual and great choice. Pre-war aircraft used, well I have no idea so love to see builds like this and learn new stuff. You just have to do the "splinter" scheme. it looks and will look awesome. Good luck with the build(s), there will be some interest in this one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reini Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: Thanks Col. I think there were at least two. 7 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: Thanks Hewy I found this image from aerofile dot info...It doesn't look armed to me. --John I checked couple of my books and can't see weapons on them. According to this Ilmavoimat PDF (https://ilmavoimat.fi/documents/1951206/2016331/Ilmavoimien+lentokalusto+-++Toista+maailmansotaa+edeltävä+aika.pdf/29bb34d8-f832-442d-b87d-5f89ad216fc5/Ilmavoimien+lentokalusto+-++Toista+maailmansotaa+edeltävä+aika.pdf ) three were bought, two crashed the next year and the last one served until 1924 - and it also mentions pilot training. So quite possibly used as an unarmed trainer. Also, on this Finnish forum regarding Fokker D.VII someone mentions that they were delivered unarmed - and altough arming them was planned, it was never done. https://www.pienoismallit.net/keskustelut/4903_suomalainen-fokker-dvii/?offset=30 Hope this helps! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, reini said: Hope this helps! And it does reini. Many thanks for the links. I'll save the first one as a reference if you don't mind. I have left my excellent Finnish aircraft books in a storage unit in America... Yes..the aircraft I will be building is the one that was mustered out in 1924. And it makes sense that they were delivered unarmed. So, thank you for confirming all of this! John Edited January 19, 2020 by John D.C. Masters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) I found this in the spares box...very nice. It'll improve the built ten-fold. Because we all now what I will to work with in the Revell box...not much. Here are some awful looking sprue...injection pins/holes...flash...too thick struts...Hmmm...the more I look at it the more I think I might start cannibalizing bits from Roden and MAC Fokkers kits to fix all of this. This might become a very interesting build indeed! I might keep the fuselage. Maybe. --John Edited January 19, 2020 by John D.C. Masters 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 You know...Hmmm...the thing is, I have a few of the newest Eduard DVII kits in the stash. And they really are top-notch kits. In perusing the pdf page that @reini supplied I found this image, which I have cropped... It distinctly says 'OAW' on the side of the fuselage. the Eduard kits are OAW. I might have to use one of them. Or not. I can use bits...I am kind of looking forward to scavenging and scratching. The Eduard path would be almost too easy... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Here's something fun and obsessive compulsive... MAC fuselage Roden wings, etc... Roden motor Eduard axle airfoil Eduard cockpit details Evergreen rod I will call it "MacRoduard"...that fine model company from north of Port William... Actually, I am happier with this set-up than the Revell boxing. Any surgery I will have to do will be about the same. Plus, the wings and moulding is better. I'll change the title... --John 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Let's fix the lower wings. I have cleaned up all the plastic bits. It would be nice if the motor fit inside the fuselage but I doubt it will. I will grind it down until it does! Apply a bit of lozenge to the inside...these aircraft came with lozenge from the factory and were then overpainted... --John 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Nice start John. Can't blame you for side-stepping the blobs of plastic Revell pretend are a kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Col. said: blobs of plastic Thanks Col. I agree. I assume it all still fits within the parameters of the GB! I looked up the rules...nothing about scavenging or cannibalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I think "FrankenFokker" could have also done as a title! Gosh the revell kit did look to be a shocker....I've got one trumpeter stuff that looks remarkably similarly mounded!!! It's going to be really interesting watching you stick all these bits together. This almost class as scratchbuilding which is perfectly fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, trickyrich said: This almost class as scratchbuilding which is perfectly fine. I'm flattered Rich. I'll leave the intense scratch building to my betters! This is merely cannibalizing. The only scratching I'll be doing will be the struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Let's fix up the cockpit, if at least just for a bit of show. Eduard PE pre-painted instrument panel backed with a few thin sheets of Evergreen. I'll paint this bit brass for the fuel pump. Sorry about the focus. And the other side... there's an Eduard throttle in there, a floor from Evergreen, a bit of scrap for the seat to sit on... I'll take care of the seat this evening and close it all up later before bedtime. --John 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Cockpit update... --John 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 True to prediction, the Roden motor had to be thoroughly destroyed in order to fit it into the MAC fuselage, show the manifolds correctly and allow for space for the radiator. I had to cut off the bottom half of the motor and the pointy end of the front. That is so the radiator would fit. That's ok. I knew it would happen. I do love those Roden parts though. Such nice detail. Its a shame they rarely fit together. With the fuselage closed up I am feeling more confident about this build. Note that white section of Evergreen. This is where the Spandau guns would have gone. As it is, this part it will require a small amount of tidying up and a touch of filler. I have left the ammo chutes. The radiator fits cleanly. Next up: lower wings, stabilizer and rudder. --John 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reini Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: I have left the ammo chutes. If I understood correctly from the thread I linked earlier - that is the right thing to do, apparently the ammo chutes & ammo boxes were still in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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