F-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe 1987 - Kinetic 1/48

[Jochen Barett]

40 minutes ago, Andy350 said:

Completed as much as I could without the nose cone.  Had to super glue one of the wheels on as the glue melted the tiny plastic axle on one side.  Apart from a couple of silly mistakes, mainly paint (wrong looking yellow as well), nose and ejector seat it went really smoothly, ...

Still looking at sourcing a cone 😁  And also need to fit the 'no step' decals to the wings.

 

Um eh, now that you mentioned it  ... there is still some time to come up with radome tan and tone it down a bit before the new nose cone arrives.

[Andy350]

32 minutes ago, Jochen Barett said:

Um eh, now that you mentioned it  ... there is still some time to come up with radome tan and tone it down a bit before the new nose cone arrives.

'Radome tan' is that the correct yellow?  The MIG-048 and Tamiya XF-3 look nothing like the correct colour.

 

[Andy350]

Found this from Hannants, it might fit, even though this is for Eduard and Hasegawa kits.

 

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/CMQ48028

[reini]

 @Andy350 Looking great, good job on the camo  And remember, when it comes to plastic glue, less is more

[Andy350]

16 minutes ago, reini said:

 @Andy350 Looking great, good job on the camo  And remember, when it comes to plastic glue, less is more

Thanks Reini, very true. 

 

[Andy350]

1 hour ago, Jochen Barett said:

Um eh, now that you mentioned it  ... there is still some time to come up with radome tan and tone it down a bit before the new nose cone arrives.

I'm wondering if Vallejo sand (ivory) 71.075 will work, as Vallejo radome tan is 71.074

[Hook]

1 hour ago, Andy350 said:

I'm wondering if Vallejo sand (ivory) 71.075 will work, as Vallejo radome tan is 71.074

The areas were unpainted glass fibre, with a wide range of possible shades but tending towards hemp. Vallejo Air 71023 is a good starting point.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

 

 

[Andy350]

15 minutes ago, Hook said:

The areas were unpainted glass fibre, with a wide range of possible shades but tending towards hemp. Vallejo Air 71023 is a good starting point.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

 

 

Thanks Andre, what is that part on the starfighter? 

[Jochen Barett]

An antenna cover (don't ask, which antenna). The "original" color is like Hook sad "glass fibre and resin", like bleached streaky honey. Maybe the yellow is even a good base to be covered with thin layers/streaks of greyish white, a hint of pink and ocher thinned with a bit of clear lacquer to produce a translucent look.

 

On the other hand, one might search the internet until a nicely colored antenna cover is found http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/2346.htm

(just add a little dirt / grime to the yellow and you're done)

Edited January 21, 2020 by Jochen Barett

[Andy350]

7 hours ago, Jochen Barett said:

An antenna cover (don't ask, which antenna). The "original" color is like Hook sad "glass fibre and resin", like bleached streaky honey. Maybe the yellow is even a good base to be covered with thin layers/streaks of greyish white, a hint of pink and ocher thinned with a bit of clear lacquer to produce a translucent look.

 

On the other hand, one might search the internet until a nicely colored antenna cover is found http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/2346.htm

(just add a little dirt / grime to the yellow and you're done)

Thanks Jochen, might just try and dirty what is there.  Interesting to see how dirty the underside of that one is.

[Jochen Barett]

Piecing together the evidence: http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/f104sea4.htm

(wing tip tank RAL 6014 upper, RAL 7001 underside)

 

And another one with a lot of color information: http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/f104camo.htm

 

(excuse me for being such a nuisance, I just like the 104 a tiny bit and I'll keep my fingers crossed for that rhinoplasty)

[Andy350]

37 minutes ago, Jochen Barett said:

Piecing together the evidence: http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/f104sea4.htm

(wing tip tank RAL 6014 upper, RAL 7001 underside)

 

And another one with a lot of color information: http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/f104camo.htm

 

(excuse me for being such a nuisance, I just like the 104 a tiny bit and I'll keep my fingers crossed for that rhinoplasty)

The two tone wing tank was correct for the 21+64 but was all green on the 25+23 air frame, well, that's what I read anyway.  Apart from maybe updating the yellow to a not so yellow it will stay as it is after having a nose cone fitted.

Edited January 21, 2020 by Andy350

[Hook]

1 hour ago, Andy350 said:

The two tone wing tank was correct for the 21+64 but was all green on the 25+23 air frame, well, that's what I read anyway.

Tanks were swapped on a regular basis and weren't confined to a specific airframe. Norm 62 tanks on Norm 83 aircraft, and vice versa, were common sights.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

[Andy350]

51 minutes ago, Hook said:

Tanks were swapped on a regular basis and weren't confined to a specific airframe. Norm 62 tanks on Norm 83 aircraft, and vice versa, were common sights.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

Just when you think you're starting to understand something! 

 

Very knowledgeable Andrew.

[Andy350]

With thanks to Udo @Jabo31 i now have a nose cone.  The fit wasn't perfect, I had to get the Dremel out.  Might have to fill and sand a little before painting.

 

[Filler]

A bit of extra work, but that’s a great save!! Well done to you for not giving in and a well done to Udo for proving yet again that this forum is leagues apart from any other in its community spirit!

[Andy350]

13 hours ago, Filler said:

A bit of extra work, but that’s a great save!! Well done to you for not giving in and a well done to Udo for proving yet again that this forum is leagues apart from any other in its community spirit!

Udo did a great job of helping out.  

[Jabo31]

[Andy350]

Should have left the wrong yellow in place, removed one of the decals, I suppose I could buy another sheet, but this build will end up costing more than what I bough it for.