Agusta-Bell AH-1 - Italeri 1/72

[Heather Kay]

21 minutes ago, CedB said:

except this stuff is too small for that method!

I wouldn’t be so sure. Then again, I suppose it depends on the size of your tip. (Oo-er! Fnaar! Etc.)

[andyf117]

42 minutes ago, CedB said:

Any other suggestions? Scout of course but they're rare as rocking hor hens teeth.

 

You're forgiven Andy and apologies

Suggestions? I refer the honourable gentleman to the 1968 photo back on page 1...

 

I'm not entirely innocent - it was me that brought up the subject of white trim on the seats, and legible labels on the battery....

.....and when motorised rotors were mentioned, I nearly pointed out that they would, of course, require accompanying flashing lights...

Edited January 20, 2020 by andyf117

[CedB]

Indeed it does Heather (fnaar!)

In this case (ahem) the bit I wanted to chop off (ouch) was less than 1mm - too small for me.

 

Andy thanks for 'fessing up'. You're still forgiven  

 

You knew I wouldn't wait didn't you.

Share my failures as well as successes.

 

Pencils? Fail. Too crumbly, but (hopefully) they'll be OK for dotting i/ps in the future.

 

Pens? Three sizes, small, medium and large:

 

 

I used the small one with some H34 thinned with flow improver.

Hmmm.

Sometimes it flowed, sometimes it didn't.

Of course I carried on - the spoon wasn't the right shape for a test, in the end.

 

 

Not my best work, but with a combination of carful scraping off and dotting the original colours (when the white's dry) I think it'll be fine.

 

Fingers crossed.

[keefr22]

Well done on getting a lining pen to even work Ced, something I never managed! As you say with a bit of touching up (oh ok, fnaar) they'll look fine!

 

Keith

[DaveWilko]

God's teeth Sir!!

 

These things are miniscule in real life,one didn't realise that 1/72nd scale kit could be obtained of the old "Sioux".

One does remember seeing them display as "The Blue Eagles" as a child on Llandudno sea front in the early 70's with one's

parents.

 

Excellent work Sir,excellent work.

[giemme]

1 hour ago, Heather Kay said:

Then again, I suppose it depends on the size of your tip. (Oo-er! Fnaar! Etc.)

Apologies Heather, I don't want to sound rude, but you really don't need to feed Ced with that....  

 

Ciao

[perdu]

He is absolutely right Heather, although we realise you are a raw beginner to the 'state of matter that is Ced' he will not need more than a minor prompt at any time

 

Trust us we know

 

Well Ced, I confess myself disappointed

 

A smallish flat brush could have achieved this for you back on Sunday

 

Or earlier

 

Take a drop of the white of choice mixed with thinners or flow enhancer (I loves a bit of enhancement me) and wet the bristles with the colour of choice mix

 

Then touch the very lightest of touches on the edges of the chairs just to spot the colour along the edge

 

Here, let's replicate this with the roof of a passing Whirlwind 'copter

 

Flat brushes, small - narrow side

 

Flat brushes, small - wide side

 

Now the Whirlwind (helicopter) roof with a piped edge

 

Hmm came out a bit blurred, let's we try a piece of white plastic (an old defunct drilling jig) and 'pipe' along the edge of this in red

 

Of course you will not wobble as much as me but the effect is clear to see, piped upholstery without lining pens

 

But of course everybody needs lining pens so I don't blame you for that 

[andyf117]

3 hours ago, CedB said:

Pens? Three sizes, small, medium and large

 

Pens? Them's pens? Look like medieval torture instruments to me - thumbscrews spring to mind....

[TheBaron]

9 minutes ago, andyf117 said:

Pens? Them's pens? Look like medieval torture instruments to me - thumbscrews spring to mind....

I have to agree Andy; things have taken a most sinister turn.

I don't think any of us expected the Spanish Inquisition....

[The Spadgent]

THAT!!! IP is amazing. Super impressed. I really need to get a sheet of dial decals. It’s a shame you can’t get one sheet in various scales for odd folk like me that build lots of differing sizes. I hear the Airscale ones are very good.

The seats will be fine with a bit of touching up.  Nice work Mr B. 

[andyf117]

23 minutes ago, TheBaron said:

I have to agree Andy; things have taken a most sinister turn.

I don't think any of us expected the Spanish Inquisition....

Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition - their chief weapon is surprise....

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

1 hour ago, TheBaron said:

I don't think any of us expected the Spanish Inquisition....

41 minutes ago, andyf117 said:

Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition - their chief weapon is surprise....

Did someone say the Spanish Inquisition !!! 
 

https://youtu.be/FAxkcPoLYcQ

[CedB]

4 hours ago, keefr22 said:

Well done on getting a lining pen to even work Ced, something I never managed! As you say with a bit of touching up (oh ok, fnaar) they'll look fine!

 

Keith

Thanks Keith  I'm not sure 'working' is the right word. I think, as they're designed for ink, they'd be better with thinner paint like Colourcoats? You know, not thinned (Humbrol thinned doesn't cover very well) but thinner?

4 hours ago, DaveWilko said:

God's teeth Sir!!

 

These things are miniscule in real life,one didn't realise that 1/72nd scale kit could be obtained of the old "Sioux".

One does remember seeing them display as "The Blue Eagles" as a child on Llandudno sea front in the early 70's with one's

parents.

 

Excellent work Sir,excellent work.

Thanks Dave, appreciated  

4 hours ago, giemme said:

Apologies Heather, I don't want to sound rude, but you really don't need to feed Ced with that....  

 

Ciao

3 hours ago, perdu said:

He is absolutely right Heather, although we realise you are a raw beginner to the 'state of matter that is Ced' he will not need more than a minor prompt at any time

 

Trust us we know

Who? Me?

Quote

Well Ced, I confess myself disappointed

 

A smallish flat brush could have achieved this for you back on Sunday

 

Or earlier

[snip pictures]

Of course you will not wobble as much as me but the effect is clear to see, piped upholstery without lining pens

 

But of course everybody needs lining pens so I don't blame you for that 

Thanks Bill  Appreciate the tip and stored for later use.

However (here it comes) I will wobble as much as you (if not more) and what about the slot for the collective and the gaps between the seats?

Thanks matey for the demonstration though, really appreciate you taking the time.

 

1 hour ago, andyf117 said:

Pens? Them's pens? Look like medieval torture instruments to me - thumbscrews spring to mind....

1 hour ago, TheBaron said:

I have to agree Andy; things have taken a most sinister turn.

I don't think any of us expected the Spanish Inquisition....

1 hour ago, andyf117 said:

Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition - their chief weapon is surprise....

26 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Did someone say the Spanish Inquisition !!! 
 

https://youtu.be/FAxkcPoLYcQ

Thanks guys, always good for a laugh  

 

1 hour ago, The Spadgent said:

THAT!!! IP is amazing. Super impressed. I really need to get a sheet of dial decals. It’s a shame you can’t get one sheet in various scales for odd folk like me that build lots of differing sizes. I hear the Airscale ones are very good.

The seats will be fine with a bit of touching up.  Nice work Mr B. 

Thanks Johnny - Pick a scale, that's the answer  

 

 

Couldn't go to bed without doing the seats, now ready for a gloss coat in the morning:

 

 

No, not perfect, but the best I can do.

The seatbelts will hide any bad bits - oh yes they will!

 

At least now I can start assembling stuff and get on with it!

[hendie]

15 minutes ago, CedB said:

At least now I can start assembling stuff and get on with it!

 

enjoy the greeblies Ced

 

 

[perdu]

Oh yes, enjoy

 

👍👍👍

[Hamden]

 

Nice work on the seats, far better than I could manage!

 

              Roger

[Ex-FAAWAFU]

For the avoidance of doubt, I was 100% joking when I talked about motorising rotors.  I mention this because I had also assumed Andy was joking about the piping on the seats... but not only have you gone ahead and done it, but you even used it as an excuse to obtain not one but THREE new tools.  One per seat, I guess.

[CedB]

8 hours ago, hendie said:

 

enjoy the greeblies Ced

 

 

2 hours ago, perdu said:

Oh yes, enjoy

 

👍👍👍

Thanks hendie and Bill - I guess you mean the little bottle and fans and… but wait… will they fit? Could they be seen? See below…

 

43 minutes ago, Hamden said:

 

Nice work on the seats, far better than I could manage!

 

              Roger

Thanks Roger, very kind  

It's things like this that build up in my head, require new tools (of course) and then… my efforts let me down.

Sometimes even new tools won't improve my modelling skills (or patience)

 

8 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

For the avoidance of doubt, I was 100% joking when I talked about motorising rotors.  I mention this because I had also assumed Andy was joking about the piping on the seats... but not only have you gone ahead and done it, but you even used it as an excuse to obtain not one but THREE new tools.  One per seat, I guess.

Joking - what! Now what am I going to do with the tiny, tiny motors I've ordered?

Now I'm joking  

 

I should point out that one of my many faults is that I don't get 'teasing'.

I think my Mum brought me up to be truthful and always take things seriously.

This means that, when someone suggest something I think 'Oh, OK' and not 'You're joking aren't you?'

My fault entirely and not posted with any emotion, just for clarity.

They er, mess you up your parents!  

 

So, if anyone posts something that is a tease and I miss it, do please let me know.

You can wait until after I've ordered the tools (of course), that's a given  

 

So, what's caused all this emotional clap trap?

Assembly, that's what.

 

I put the seats and all the controls in and then thought I'd better try the bubble fit to see where the i/p should fit:

 

 

WHHAAAAATT! 

(In case you can't see, it doesn't fit, it's banging on the front of the floor)

 

Remember this?

 

 

I noticed the gap between the seat backs and the tape insulation last night and thought 'idiot', peeled off the tape, stuck in some wider stuff, painted it and cut out the headset control panel and painted that. The phrase 'That's odd, I'm sure that fitted before' never occurred to me

 

i now realise that the floor was glued in too far forward. 

Right.

 

 

Curses.

A lot of them.

 

All back in now and bubble dry fitted:

 

 

Recap…

14 hours ago, DaveWilko said:

God's teeth Sir!!

 

These things are miniscule in real life, one didn't realise that 1/72nd scale kit could be obtained of the old "Sioux".

Dave is right.

It's tiny.

 

Now I've removed my strongest magnifiers and stepped back a bit I have a new perspective.

It's tiny.

 

 

I don't have the skills (or patience) to do much more on this so I think the little bottle is out.

The tubes definitely are.

Belts yes, curly headset cables no.

 

Onwards.

[Andwil]

5 minutes ago, CedB said:

Now what am I going to do with the tiny, tiny motors I've ordered?

Use them to power the tiny fans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joking.

 

AW

[keefr22]

17 minutes ago, CedB said:

All back in now and bubble dry fitted:

 

 

That looks lovely Ced, and the TET bottle just shows how 'ickle it really is! 

 

K

[giemme]

23 minutes ago, keefr22 said:

That looks lovely Ced, and the TET bottle just shows how 'ickle it really is! 

Agreed, a tiny little jewel!  

 

Ciao

[CedB]

1 hour ago, Andwil said:

Use them to power the tiny fans.

 

 

Joking.

 

AW

Thanks AW  (I got that one!)

57 minutes ago, keefr22 said:

 

That looks lovely Ced, and the TET bottle just shows how 'ickle it really is! 

 

K

Thanks Keith  Yes, I'm finally getting some perspective on scale etc. Finally.

31 minutes ago, giemme said:

Agreed, a tiny little jewel!  

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio  

 

So, new perspective.

What can we see?

 

The i/p, if you get the angle just right:

 

 

Otherwise not (but it was fun, sort of)

 

The different coloured control columns, if you get the angle just right:

 

 

The battery and the (new) belts:

 

 

Then you do this and, well, most of it gets obscured:

 

 

Ho hum.

Yes, the bubble is scratched and will get some attention when it's fixed on.

 

Next page of the instructions, once some kit greeblies are glued on the bottom (snurf) is the tail boom.

At last.

[giemme]

2 hours ago, CedB said:

Then you do this and, well, most of it gets obscured:

Well, kind of, but all the details and additions make for a very interesting glance, despite of not being able to see all of them at once. Great job!  

 

Ciao

Edited January 21, 2020 by giemme

[keefr22]

What Giorgio said!

[CedB]

Thanks Giorgio and Keith  

 

Over the page.

 

 

Fiddly.

The parts fit very well together - if you hadn't painted the seams (ahem).

The bottom bits (titter) fit together to form a round tube, the 'large' tail support fits well and the front bits go into locating holes, so little room for error.

 

Trouble is, it's so twisty that you end up going here, there and everywhere.

And if you try to use clamps the round sections separate.

 

In the end I used TET Quick Drying and just held bits together until it set (seconds), but that did leave some squiggled plastic:

 

 

What do you mean I missed a bit? 

That unpainted bit goes somewhere across the internal frame - I think I need to check some reference shots.

 

Lunchtime.