dogsbody Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The images below have been sent to me by noted Canadian aviation author Carl Vincent. He wanted me to post them on the forum. Some of these were copied by his wife, Elizabeth, from film negatives. Most of these I have never seen before. They are pictures of the 15 examples acquired by the RCAF and operated by 32 OTU and, later, 149 Squadron from Patricia Bay. Enjoy! And a small bit of RCAF history: More to come! Chris 10 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Superb photos Dogsbody, thanks for posting. Simon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Thanks from all of us, Chris! What great modeling reference photos! Please extend my thanks to Carl for allowing you to share these. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, 72modeler said: Thanks from all of us, Chris! What great modeling reference photos! Please extend my thanks to Carl for allowing you to share these. Mike He'll see it. He pops into the forum every once in a while, to see what's shakin'. He doesn't post pictures as I don't think he has a hosting site and doesn't want to bother trying to figure that out. I can understand that thinking. If he want pictures shared to the forum, he asks me to do it. Why he chose me, of all people, I'll never know, but I'll keep doing it for him. How could I refuse? Chris 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVY870 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 hours ago, 72modeler said: Steve, I was not aware of this when I posted the photo; would you like me to delete it? Let me know- I don't want to offend any BM'ers. Mike Mike Leave it up, its fine. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 This is the last group of Beaufort pictures that have just been sent to me a few minutes ago, by Carl. He also includes a little intel on the camo on these aircraft: " For what it is worth, I seem to recall noting in an RCAF document that of the first 12 Beauforts delivered to Canada, six were in temperate land and six in temperate sea colour schemes. " Thanks, Carl and Elizabeth! Chris 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Chris, Wow! Another great collection of photos! Much obliged, podnuh! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I pre-ordered one of these yesterday as its one of my more favorite RAF types. The TSS/black is one reason for the pre-order. Its my first pre order since i had a LMS 16 years ago and I'm excited by it. Keep the info coming Chris. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 18:19, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Keep the info coming Chris. This is it. That's all the Beaufort photos Carl Vincent has. He has been studying Canadian aircraft for some decades now and has written many articles and books during those years. I'm lucky to have two of his books and some of the articles that have been published. Chris 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSmith Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) hey Chris these are fantastic, i have now downloaded them all for future reference if and when i do the Beaufort, for everybody else if and when Airfix produce this please be very carefull if modeling the RAAF DAP built ones, a small batch have a flatter lower front fuselage which make it look very different to the true Bristol design so check your photos Edited January 12, 2020 by JMSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSmith Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 also 1200+ views of tthese images, so they are not being spread all over the internet then !, as you well know Chris what i have been given privately over the years i have NEVER shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 hours ago, JMSmith said: what i have been given privately over the years i have NEVER shared. You're a good man, JMS- wish there were more out there like you; fortunately the 'pirates' and reference thieves are in the minority in our hobby. Mike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSmith Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 oh so very true, tis a daily battle for us profiile artists, when i shuffle off this mortal coil my hard drives are to be destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, JMSmith said: oh so very true, tis a daily battle for us profiile artists, when i shuffle off this mortal coil my hard drives are to be destroyed Johnny, when you kack it, you could send those hard drives to me. I'll make sure their destroyed properly. Chris 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, 72modeler said: .......... the 'pirates' and reference thieves are in the minority in our hobby. Hi Thought our hobby was just that building small scale models most likely not authorised of a manufacturers/designers work not to even mention the use of national markings lol :-) jerry 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 John 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well, I've heard it said that the Liberator looked like the crate in which it was shipped, but never heard that about the Beaufort....until now! You are a crazy man, John! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Beaufort Homes was one of the many sidelines that DAP, GAF and others went down after the Second Great Unpleasantness finished, mainly to keep their troops employed (and their teams together) until things stabilised and, hopefully, they could go back to making aeroplanes. CAC, for instance, did a particularly attractive line of buses based on the Bedford 'O' chassis. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Animal Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Fantastic images. I think I want Beaufort Homes to be my porn name 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Post 26 picture 3: I think this is the rarely shown 2000lb SAP bomb that sized the bomb bays of so many RAF WW2 bombers. It was used for shipping strikes so it makes sense - When Halifaxes bombed S & G in Brest they scored three (?) hits but the bombs went straight through and detonated underneath. One of the two had to limp out to a more sheltered harbour for repairs, with a great many tons of water inside her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: Post 26 picture 3: I think this is the rarely shown 2000lb SAP bomb that sized the bomb bays of so many RAF WW2 bombers. It was used for shipping strikes ..... Hi Wonder if it is a dummy bomb as 32OTU was mainly a training unit on vancouver island cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Could be. I doubt that there were any armoured targets worth expending a real bomb on, even for a demonstration. However there was always the fear of the Japanese fleet turning up of the coast - if a pretty slim one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2nd stage of conversion to prototype Beaufort VIP aircraft John 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl V Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Thanks to canberra kid for these great pictures. I am particularly intrigued by the third, which is the first I have seen with the DF aerial deployed. It has relevance to my work because the British Air Ministry strongly recommended that this be adopted by the RCAF for the Bolingbroke and there was a good deal of pro and con argument. The Canadians preferred the loop aerial in a football shaped housing which was adopted for all the Bolingbroke IV models except for the IV T where, presumably, DF was deemed redundant. One of the reasons given was that the Air Ministry pattern would be highly susceptible to icing. Would I be able to get a copy of this photo for use when/if my book is published? Does anyone know if this type aerial was used on anything but the Beaufort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Carl V said: Thanks to canberra kid for these great pictures. I am particularly intrigued by the third, which is the first I have seen with the DF aerial deployed. It has relevance to my work because the British Air Ministry strongly recommended that this be adopted by the RCAF for the Bolingbroke and there was a good deal of pro and con argument. The Canadians preferred the loop aerial in a football shaped housing which was adopted for all the Bolingbroke IV models except for the IV T where, presumably, DF was deemed redundant. One of the reasons given was that the Air Ministry pattern would be highly susceptible to icing. Would I be able to get a copy of this photo for use when/if my book is published? Does anyone know if this type aerial was used on anything but the Beaufort? A couple scans from Warpaint #50. SORRY! PICTURES DELETED. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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