zigster Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Somewhere, I've read, that NZ "supplied" more of the front line personnel as a ratio to population of any Commonwealth countries. No wonder, Calum is demanding 😎!!! Yet, I don't see any Spits in NZ, and Morocco can be under "Southern Sky" to a manufacturer in Czech , as Czech Navy is to you. Bet, you didn't know about it! Zig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The title is only a title. But one who wants to buiild a Spitfire from Africa or Australia (or Malta) will have to find some aftermarket resin DeHavilland Hydromatic propellers widely used in those places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, DominikS said: will have to find some aftermarket resin DeHavilland Hydromatic propellers And I think no aftermarket has correctly portrayed it, yet. If this is the case then my plan will be to modify the Eduard parts if I build another Hydromatic prop aircraft. Nothing in the box seems quite right. At least there are plenty of props and spinners to work on. If you're interested I did some discussion on the DH Hydromatic, and modified the Airfix prop, when I did my Airifx Vb to Vc conversion here: Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Ray Great workshop. But Freightdog once made DH Hydromatic. And I think I have two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, DominikS said: But Freightdog once made DH Hydromatic. And I think I have two. Great find. I found some in stock at Hobby Mania of all places back in Australia and placed an order. Now I will have to make another Hydromatic Mk Vc. This time Eduard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type 40 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 There's some information about upcoming Mk.V boxings mentioned on Page 5 of the January 2022 Info Eduard newsletter: https://www.eduard.com/out/media/InfoEduard/archive/2022/info-eduard-2022-01en.pdf.pdf Second half of 2022: Spitfire Story: Per Aspera Ad Astra (Limited Edition) Spitfire Mk.Vc Profipack No mention of what specific topic/theme the Per Aspera Ad Astra boxing will cover, but given that the RAAF crest features the phrase "Per Ardua Ad Astra", perhaps it's an Australian-themed box? It'd be terrific if that were so (I'm somewhat biased!), and even more so if there was a Peter Malone book included... let's call it "Aussie Five"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think that "Per Ardua Ad Astra" is also a phrase on the RAF crest, so it might be also something about RAF .... Battle of Britain maybe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, DominikS said: I think that "Per Ardua Ad Astra" is also a phrase on the RAF crest, so it might be also something about RAF .... Battle of Britain maybe??? Per Aspera Ad Astra not Per Ardua Ad Astra - South African Air Force? Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ray_W said: Per Aspera Ad Astra not Per Ardua Ad Astra - South African Air Force? Ray My mistake. But, I remember learning "Per Aspera Ad Astra" not "Per Ardua" and was surpised when I first saw RAF crest. So maybe some air force from the Continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, DominikS said: My mistake. But, I remember learning "Per Aspera Ad Astra" not "Per Ardua" and was surpised when I first saw RAF crest. So maybe some air force from the Continent. I'm putting my money on SAAF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 1602 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ray_W said: I'm putting my money on SAAF. +1 ☝️ I was thinking about building a 4 cannon SAAF Vc from one of the other dual combo boxings plus some aftermarket decals - or getting the ‘Southern Stars’ boxing which includes one. I’ll hold off now and see what this ‘Per Aspera’ dual combo yields. There are some nice unusual SAAF schemes out there for the Med and North Africa. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steve 1602 said: There are some nice unusual SAAF schemes out there for the Med and North Africa. You're right about that Steve. Would be worthy of a limited edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 1602 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ray_W said: You're right about that Steve. Would be worthy of a limited edition. Definitely - I’d be unsurprised if it also included SA pilots serving with other Air Forces eg Malan, LeRoux etc Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treker_ed Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 According to various internet sources, Per Aspera Ad Astra is the motto for the SAAF, most of the other Commonwealth Air Forces that are still styled Royal (insert country) Air Force still use Per Ardua Ad Astra (and a few others that aren't), with the exception of Canada which uses sic itur ad astra, which translates as "Such is the pathway to the stars". So it is quite possible that Eduard may be referring to a boxing made up entirely of South African Air Force Spitfires 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Taster Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ray_W said: Per Aspera Ad Astra not Per Ardua Ad Astra - South African Air Force? Ray +1 for Ray's post. According to Wikipedia (so 100% guaranteed accurate !) Per Ardua is (or was) the motto for the RAF, RAAF, RNZAF, RCAF(1968) and RIAF(1947). Per Aspera for the RSAAF. Eduard are masters at getting the last squeeze from the toothpaste tube when it comes to limited editions. I will pass on this one, but eagerly await the limited edition release of left handed Irish Spitfire pilots (to be released on 17th March). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingShamrock Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tea Taster said: +1 for Ray's post. According to Wikipedia (so 100% guaranteed accurate !) Per Ardua is (or was) the motto for the RAF, RAAF, RNZAF, RCAF(1968) and RIAF(1947). Per Aspera for the RSAAF. Eduard are masters at getting the last squeeze from the toothpaste tube when it comes to limited editions. I will pass on this one, but eagerly await the limited edition release of left handed Irish Spitfire pilots (to be released on 17th March). When they eventually release their 1/48 Hurricane they need to do a Spit and Hurricane boxing for all 10 Irish Battle of Britain pilots. I will buy enough to make them all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Taster Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheFlyingShamrock said: When they eventually release their 1/48 Hurricane they need to do a Spit and Hurricane boxing for all 10 Irish Battle of Britain pilots. I will buy enough to make them all! Ah, but how many of them were left handed ? Tea Taster (left handed Irish non-Spitfire pilot) 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Actually, the biggest problem is quite different. All these Spitfires are in a wrong scale - they should be in 1/72 🤪😆😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 According to those 'in the know' they should be along shortly but I'm more sceptical and say 2-3 years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, DominikS said: Actually, the biggest problem is quite different. All these Spitfires are in a wrong scale - they should be in 1/72 🤪😆😂 Yes, we know, but please don't mention it or it will only encourage wierdos who model in other scales to butt in to 1/72 scale threads. Not, I hasten to add, that there's actually anything wrong with 1/17 or 1/53 or any of the other peculiar non-72 scales. As an aside, kits on or around my modelling desk include 1/144, 1/200, 1/76, 1/700. 1/720, and something I haven't yet measured but described by the manufacturer as "mini". But not Spitfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 7:12 PM, Ray_W said: As an aside, and excuse my ignorance, did the Kiwi's fly the Mk V in the Pacific? I know they did the P-40 and F4U. 485 Squadron would provide some ETO options. I do not want to send this off topic. Just a quick reply if you know. We did not fly any Spitfire in RNZAF colours, only the "brackets" squadron - at home we had 297 P-40/Kittyhawks of varying models which were replaced by 424 Vought and Goodyear Corsairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, k5054nz said: We did not fly any Spitfire in RNZAF colours, only the "brackets" squadron Thanks Zac for the clarification. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 hours ago, treker_ed said: According to various internet sources, Per Aspera Ad Astra is the motto for the SAAF, most of the other Commonwealth Air Forces that are still styled Royal (insert country) Air Force still use Per Ardua Ad Astra (and a few others that aren't), with the exception of Canada which uses sic itur ad astra, which translates as "Such is the pathway to the stars". So it is quite possible that Eduard may be referring to a boxing made up entirely of South African Air Force Spitfires RCAF used Per Ardua Ad Astra from 1924 to 1968, CAF used it 1968 to 2013. When we reformed as the RCAF in 2013 we went back to sic itur ad astra, which was our original motto from 1920-1924. Your entire post is correct, just adding detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB17 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Per Ardua Ad Astra = Through Adversity to the Stars. I didn’t see that translation mentioned here. As an air cadet, we were taught the motto and it’s meaning, I also served under that motto with the CAF Air Command. Just another little tidbit. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold55 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I was thinking, as a surprise Eduard could release as Mk Vc with US markings similar to what Classic Airframes did many years ago. Would be a great release for the IPMS nationals in Omaha this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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