Special Hobby Super Mystere B2 (J52-engine) 'FAH 2002' Fuerza Aerea Hondurena 1/72 - 15th June - tackling the Shafrirs again!

[RidgeRunner]

Well, I am just about at the same point now as Post #52. Today I started with sanding the filler and checking for gaps, etc. Most was okay but I needed a little more filler here and there. For this tidying up I used Perfect Plastic Putty, having first used Squadron White Putty as it is a biit stronger. After that the wings went on and were allowed to set in position:

 

 

 

Next I need to clean/re-scribe some of the sanded or overfilled panel lines, etc. Thereafter it will be the windscreen on and a primer coat.

 

Martin

Edited February 28, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[sosa_1991]

So far so good, its looking very nice Martin! Cant wait to see it in colour!

[Terry1954]

That tail mod looks tricky Martin, but having looked at a few pictures of stationary SMB2's, it adds that touch of authenticity. Will have to get my head round that for my SMB2's.

 

Terry

[Wez]

6 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

That tail mod looks tricky Martin, but having looked at a few pictures of stationary SMB2's, it adds that touch of authenticity. Will have to get my head round that for my SMB2's.

 

Terry

I  myself was a bit concerned about attempting it, I considered giving that aspect of the aircraft a stiff ignoring but I knew full well it would be bothering me every time I looked at it, but having discussed it and then seeing how Martin achieved it I must say any trepidation I had about tackling that particular modification has disappeared.

 

I'm sure you'll be OK if you followed the same steps.

Edited February 29, 2020 by Wez
Grammar, punctuation, the English language frankly deserves better!

[RidgeRunner]

6 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

That tail mod looks tricky Martin, but having looked at a few pictures of stationary SMB2's, it adds that touch of authenticity. Will have to get my head round that for my SMB2's.

 

Terry

Yes, Terry, it is pretty much essential for most jets at rest. The SMB2 takes a bit more work because of the plates. @Wez encouraged me to tackle them and I'm pleased that I did

 

Martin

6 hours ago, sosa_1991 said:

So far so good, its looking very nice Martin! Cant wait to see it in colour!

Thanks Alex

Edited February 29, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[RidgeRunner]

As well as the AD-4N I got a little done on the SMB2 today. It was mainly tidying, additional PPP here and there and sanding. Thereafter the airbrush was brought in to action to shoot over some Humbrol 1 Primer. I apply this very thinly - enough to show up blemishes but not so that the detail is compromised. 

 

  

 

You can see also that I gave th AD-4N resin cockpit a dusting ;).  Once this has settled overnight I will check again forr any more blemishes and, if all okay, will get the underwing pylons and maybe get the FS36622 on the undersides

 

Martin

 

[RidgeRunner]

I got a little done this morning - simple stuff. I needed to get the pylons attached prior to airbrushing the underside FS36622. THe main and outer fit via locating pins. However, if you and building this kit I'd suggest that you open the holes out a little. If not they wont sit correctly. The inners are mounted on the join between the wing and the fuselage. This requires that you measure holes for the locating pins. The dimensions are given in the instructions and so you will just need to cut out a template. I used one of my business cards, cut to size and the holes marked and drilled. I then matched up the template to the model and drilled a little further. She is now sittingproudly with her feathers on

 

 

 

 

 

You will see that I have used the spare canopy as a mask for painting. I have attached it using Masking Fluid. It saves all the fiddling with tape. Lets see how successful it is! Having got the main wing tanks assembled I just need to clean those up once cured and it will be painting time! . Before I do that, though, I need to draw out my masks. I will start this today and hopefully post progress tomorow.

 

Martin

 

 

Martin 

[Wez]

Saw this and thought of this thread...

 

 

[RidgeRunner]

Yes, @Wez, thats an intereting one, as is this:

 

 

 

Martim

[Wez]

Nice to see them in the earlier scheme, thanks for sharing.

[sosa_1991]

2 hours ago, Wez said:

Saw this and thought of this thread...

 

 

That would be the FAH 2016, it was the last Super Mystere that was airworthy for a short time before it was completely retired back in 1998. Currently its only in static display in the main entrance of the Base (Hector Caraccioli Moncada) and the airbase commander did place my fathers name on this particular Mystere (Cnel. (r) Francisco Edgardo Sosa Mass)

 

Very nice find, brings back some fantastic memories.

[Marco1965]

Interesting topic and great model, and the kit looks quite good (I got the AZ Models one, one of these days I´ll start).

 

Marco

[RidgeRunner]

Hi @Marco1965, I'm glad you lIke it. I see you are a fan of Latino machines so I guess we share a passion. I would recommend the Special Hobby kit. It is superbly engineered. 

 

Hi Alex @sosa_1991. Its great to see you on the thread

 

Martin

[RidgeRunner]

12 hours ago, Wez said:

Nice to see them in the earlier scheme, thanks for sharing.

This one is even more interesting. It even has Sabre FAH3001 (the white and blue one) performing a flypast

 

 

Martin

Edited March 20, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[Wez]

12 hours ago, sosa_1991 said:

That would be the FAH 2016, it was the last Super Mystere that was airworthy for a short time before it was completely retired back in 1998. Currently its only in static display in the main entrance of the Base (Hector Caraccioli Moncada) and the airbase commander did place my fathers name on this particular Mystere (Cnel. (r) Francisco Edgardo Sosa Mass)

 

Very nice find, brings back some fantastic memories.

It's always good when there's a personal connection.

 

12 hours ago, Marco1965 said:

(I got the AZ Models one, one of these days I´ll start)

As Martin ( @RidgeRunner ) says, do yourself a favour and get the Special Hobby kit.

 

10 hours ago, RidgeRunner said:

This one is even more interesting. It even has Sabre FAH3001 (the white and blue one) performing a flypast

 

A great mix of types there which is what makes these air forces interesting, what year was this made do we know?  I'm guessing sometime mid to late 70's.

[RidgeRunner]

43 minutes ago, Wez said:

A great mix of types there which is what makes these air forces interesting, what year was this made do we know?  I'm guessing sometime mid to late 70's.

It claims to be 1976, Wez. Super Mysteres at 8:17 :). When did you last see a Corsair formation team?  Other than warbirds, of course.

Edited March 20, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[billn53]

I don’t know how I missed this build taking place, and here you are nearly done! Better late, than never I guess. Looking great (as usual) Martin!

[RidgeRunner]

5 hours ago, billn53 said:

I don’t know how I missed this build taking place, and here you are nearly done! Better late, than never I guess. Looking great (as usual) Martin!

Hi Bill, 

 

Well, it has been a bit frustrating, as you will have seen.  It is also frustrated by the Covid thing :(. Nevermind, I've managed to get some paint on stryrene today. As you can see below, I have airbrushed the FS26622 Gray today. There is nothing too exciting about it, of course. I'm simply recording progress.  - which I'm thankful for!

 

 

 

The next step will, of course, be to tackle the two greens and tan. As I've said earlier, these machines were initially finished in standard US "Vietnam" or SEA colours, being applied in the US prior to delivery. Essentially, therefore, they were pretty much like an F-100 although, to my eyes, rather more appealling. As is my norm nowadays, I'll be using Colourcoats' excellent paints :).

 

For the camouflage I will again employ my draw-cut-mask technique, as I did with my recent FAG and FAB Mustangs, as well as "Mr Toad" (if you recall him  ). I have drawn out the pattern, as follows:

 

 

My build is focussed on FAH2002 because it is about the only one of these machines for which I have clear images showing both sides. For the wings and tailplanes I will be employing a smidgen of "Modeller's licence", following roughly the correct pattern. Of course, if anyone out there has a photo of FAH2002 from above I'd be very happy to receive it.  You can see from the image above that the pattern is drawn and that I will, again, be using my favourite purchase from SMW 2019 - my Gyrocut. I will get all the demarcation lines cut with some overrun. Then, colour by colour, I will apply them by cutting holes within each section through which I tamiya tape to hold the masks on. I also use pinhead size balls of Bluetac aswell as masking fluid to hold done reluctant edges ;). This brings the paper close to the model, but not too close, for a fine blurred edge. It has worked so far! . Before that, of course, I will need to get the underside masked off and for this I will use the same method along the demarcation line below the underside and the camouflage.

 

Thats about it today. I need to get a little done on the Skyraider today too

 

Keep safe everyone!

 

Martin

 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[billn53]

1 hour ago, RidgeRunner said:

I will, again, be using my favourite purchase from SMW 2019 - my Gyrocut. I will get all the demarcation lines cut with some overrun. Then, colour by colour, I will apply them by cutting holes within each section through which I tamiya tape to hold the masks on. I also use pinhead size balls of Bluetac as well as masking fluid to hold done reluctant edges ;). This brings the paper close to the model, but not too close, for a fine blurred edge.

That Gyrocut looks to be very useful, I just ordered myself one. 
 

About how close would you say your paper mask is from the plastic surface?
 

- Bill

[RidgeRunner]

.2 to .25mm, very roughly.

 

Yes, get one. It is wonderful

[RidgeRunner]

With the garden looking much better , although not perfect, I afforded myself some time to get some paint on the SMB. I first masked off the FS26622 areas using paper, masking tape and Blutac where needed. This method gives a good fine blurred demarcation line between each colour. However, as these masks went on to curves they needed a little encouragement to stay around the contours so I used a very little Blutac here and there. For this exercise it is the aircraft body itself and the tailplanes/elevons (what's the correct name?) that need attention.

 

  

The first to go on was the tan. These machines, as I've said before, were painted in the US standard of the time - the "Vietnam" two greens, tan and grey. For this I've am using my "weapon" of choice, Colourcoats enamels. This time is is US Tan (ACUS18). 

 

 

After a few very light coats of the paint thinned well I have got to this stage:

 

 

Now I need to get the drawings of the patterns (you can see in the above image) on to a glass surface (an old picture frame) ready for cutting out with my Gyrocut. Hopefully I can get the Field Green on tmorrow.

 

Martin

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by RidgeRunner

[Wez]

Nice to see you getting back to this one Martin, it's looking good to me.

 

It's a slab tailplane, I'd still call them elevators.  Elevons are combined elevators and ailerons usually found on delta winged aircraft.

[RidgeRunner]

2 hours ago, Wez said:

Nice to see you getting back to this one Martin, it's looking good to me.

 

It's a slab tailplane, I'd still call them elevators.  Elevons are combined elevators and ailerons usually found on delta winged aircraft.

Thanks Wez. I'm pleased too. Between this and the Skyraider I'm hoping to get more regular updates posted. I had a little set back today when a wing tip on the Sky pinged and the two halves gaped open! Clearly I was frugal with the cement! 

 

Tomorrow, all being well, I'll get the masks cut and applied on the Tan and will then airbrush the Olive Green FS24102 (ACUS19). 

 

Martin

 

 

[Terry1954]

Looking good Martin!

 

Terry

[RidgeRunner]

Thanks Terry @Terry1954

 

The airbrush is red hot today! I got the first masks cut out using my Gyrocut tool. For those who havent used one - try it. It is excellent for curved patterns, even quite intricate ones. As you can see, I tape the sheets to a glass surface to help flow. Then I cut out holes within the area that I am applying, the size for masking tape to be appliedand to show throug. It is the adhesive for the mask. Then I use the Gyrocut to cutout the shapes, leaving a little overrun for overlapping as needed. 

 

 

 

 

 

I then follow the 3view drawing to guide the application. Where edges stick up I use the minutest pieces of Blutac to hold them down. For fine bits I use Maskol/Masking solution. Once all masked I got on to the painting. Again I am using the excellent Colourcoats products, this time being FS24102 Olive Green Drab (ACUS19). This paint is quite thin but I still use a little thinner to get it like skimmed milk in consistency. Using a very low PSI on the airbrush and a fine tip I set about the painting. So far so good!

 

 

That now needs to dry over night before I tackle the next coat. Colourcoats say it can be masked after 30 minutes but I err on the cautious side.

 

Martin

 

Now, where is that Skyraider ......

 

Note I have no link in any way to any of the products mentioned. I do so because I like them. 

Edited March 31, 2020 by RidgeRunner