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On 12/18/2020 at 2:49 PM, spruecutter96 said:

BIG SPOILERS AHEAD!

 

So, the third series of Discovery wheezes and stumbles to a deeply tedious anti-climax. I don't know what the production-budget on this series was, but every cent was utterly wasted. Boring, over-preachy, deeply "woke", made-to-agenda, sign-of-the-times, CRUD. What a great opportunity this was and they just threw all the potential good-stuff into the wind. They took enough story-line for 3 or 4 episodes and spun it out to fill nine - not unique to Discovery, admittedly, but still not a good sign.  

 

I have a feeling I won't be bothering to watch the next season, if it ever gets made.  

 

So, what was the most annoying aspect of the season finale...?

 

The guy in the bowler-hat. As in the previous episode, one of the silliest things I've seen EVER. A character who exists entirely just to push the story in a particular direction (a script-writing technique which has been frowned on by screen-writers for DECADES - don't believe me? Read "Adventures In the Screen-Trade" by William Goldman, which I think was written in the late 1970's. He had a lot of say about this lazy, cliched ploy and it's NOT complimentary). This character was obviously part of Trek lore, as he revealed his true name at the end, but I don't have any clue what the significance was (or care, for that matter). 

 

Giorgiou's (not spelt properly) "departure" - by that point, I really couldn't have cared less. I have no doubt we'll see her at a later date. I was hoping Lorca might at least make a "special-guest appearance" as everyone was talking about him, but no such luck. Also, the part of the storyline where she becomes a better. more merciful person.... WHY??

 

I think my biggest objection to Series 3 was it was just so BLAND. With the benefit of hind-sight, you now know that no major (or even secondary) characters are gonna die and any jeopardy they encounter is going to be very easily overcome. One thing that occurred to me recently... there's been no swearing in this series at all, IIRC- a sure sign that the scriptwriters have been instructed to make it as "inclusive" (and boring) as possible. Even when characters are even a little bit rude or nasty to each other, they have to have a big group-hug and a cry to make up, afterwards. Utter Cobblers! If people really have to look to a show as low-quality as this one to see how to treat their fellow-man, then they've got bigger problems to resolve!

 

Additionally, the quality of the acting in this series. NOT good. Far too many characters who have only two acting "modes" - completely over-the-top or virtually sleep-walking. Yes, Mike Burham..... this one's for you! The poor quality of a lot of the dialogue really didn't help, but dear me, Lordy.... Also, the science-officer who "pilots" the spore-drive. I sense he's a good actor, but here he's really not given much to work with.

 

What does anyone else think?

 

Chris. 

 

  

 

 

 

I've just got myself more or less caught up with Discovery after a bit away from it and I have to say I largely agree with your assessment.

 

The guy with the bowler hat talking cryptically was trite and lazy writing in its utmost.

 

I was hoping to have only the most fleeting of brushes with the mirror universe from here on, but it looks like we'll be subjected to more of that tediom than needed. I've always found the mirror universe based Trek episodes some of the hardest to sit through regardless of the series because they just felt like filler and padding getting in the way of the actual story.

 

While Trek has always had social conciousness and examination of the human condition as driving engines behind it, Discovery is "Woke" to the point of showing symptoms of sleep deprivation.

 

As much as I like having Michelle Yeoh in the mix, I feel she's more in the show for her "star power" attraction for the show more than anything. I often wonder if the other actors would shine more if she weren't there. She's listed as a special guest star in the credits, but makes the core cast look like supporting actors.

 

Watching Detmer fly Book's ship was a bright point in this season so far. They've had a good story line potential to explore with her PTSD this season, but have been sadly clumsy in how they've approached it and how they could have developed the character through it.

 

Our new Andorian friend, Ryn, has some potential to add something to the story and I hope he sticks around a while.

 

It's good to see where Admiral Vance is developing. He's loosening up a bit and showing a human side. Hopefully, he stays military enough to be a good example of officer material to Saru and maybe Tilley as well.

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Blimme, it's only a Christmas Miracle.....!

 

Yep, they actually produced an episode of Discover Season 3 that was (very nearly) worth watching! Having said that, things very rapidly fell apart at the end.

 

HUGEY, GARGANTUAN SPOILERS AHEAD, FOLKS. 

Firstly, how did the Away Team transport down in to a computer-simulation?

 

If they were simulated version of themselves, why were they suffering from radiation-sickness? Wouldn't computer-generated holograms be immune to radiation? I'm sure there's some great bit of sciencey-whyency BS to explain all this, but I have no idea what it is. Oh, and the "embryo changed in response to the radiation as it was forming" sounds like some pure SF Convenient Cobblers, if ever there was such a thing. Having said all that, it was kinda cool that Doug Jones made a non-Kelpian appearance. 

 

Who knew that singing can get you out of a bad situation? More bovine-expellings. 

 

Now, did the nasties transport the Discovery inside their ship and then make the spore-drive jump? If they did, how did they know that the spore-drive field would also transport their ship? Lucky guess? Or very convenient / lazy story-telling? 

 

At least it ended on a good cliff-hanger.

 

Chris. 

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Well I liked it.

 

Burnham will be captain for S.4. Given that Disco captains only last one series........

 

Trevor

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9 minutes ago, RACETRACK said:

Discovery is incomparable to Galactica. 

So say we all

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1 hour ago, Max Headroom said:

So say we all

Agreed. Galactica has an air of believability that Discovery has never had. BG is real, relatable characters fighting against great odds. Discovery has characters that will become very cliched and tired in years to come. 

 

Chris. 

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2 hours ago, Max Headroom said:

So say we all

Agreed but it did lose its way towards the end.

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At least it wasn't as bad as the ending of Raised by Wolves. 

 

I am not a fan of the Dilithium storyline. This season had some  focus more on character development which is what Star trek normally excels in. Previous seasons were more Star Wars than Star Trek which I found Picard to be as well.  This is not a bad thing for me. I did enjoy the ending and it felt like coming full circle. ( Which was probably why you got the original score as the ending credits score) 

 

Also I like the fan theory that Cronenberg is the federation president

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