Julien Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 It would seem there looks to be a major fire on the Admiral Kuznetsov in Murmansk. As a former shipyard worker fire on board was something we did nt want to contemplate. I hope all the guys are safe. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/major-fire-breaks-out-on-russian-aircraft-carrier/?fbclid=IwAR29oKhXUQxEmiKLegSlQARXcBxo5q1AkJ0XneQC_p6JCVK23UgwUMWSaLw Julien 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Likewise, let’s hope everyone gets off safely although report of between one and three men missing doesn’t inspire hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Google-translate from: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5495036.html " Briefly on fire at the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. 1. The fire was put out today. Now they pump water from the compartment where the fire occurred. In total, the fire lasted about a day. 2. According to preliminary data, the cause of the fire was a violation of safety during welding - sparks from welding entered the compartment with fuel oil (according to other information, rags soaked in fuel oil that were not removed from the compartment), which led to a fire. 3. During extinguishing a fire, an officer of the ship's survivability service was killed. Poisoned by carbon monoxide. Another victim was discovered this afternoon (before that he was considered missing). Another 14 people were injured (mainly poisoning by combustion products, although there are injuries), one of them is in serious condition. 4. The amount of damage caused to the ship will be determined by the state commission. After a while, they should declare how great damage to the ship is and how it will affect plans for its repair and modernization. 5. A criminal case has been instituted on the fact of the incident regarding a safety violation." B.R. Serge P.S. These are system reasons. No comment on this theme from me more. Edited December 13, 2019 by Aardvark 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Despite all that has happened, the Kuznetsov is to be fully repaired and returned to service. A new dock facility is being created to dry dock her for a second time this year, with the expectation that she will return to service in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkiwiforces Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) On 26/02/2020 at 19:13, Stealthman said: Despite all that has happened, the Kuznetsov is to be fully repaired and returned to service. A new dock facility is being created to dry dock her for a second time this year, with the expectation that she will return to service in 2021. Crikey, the poor old girl is starting to become like my grandad’s old axe and chainsaw he had since he was demob during war to work in the bush felling trees and working Baignents Sawmill, to working on his farm at Dovedale and when he finally passed away in Nelson Hospital (note he didn’t have the chainsaw or axe in the hospital). Edited February 28, 2020 by Exkiwiforces 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Exkiwiforces said: working Baigents Sawmill There won't be many of us on here know what you're referring to there. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkiwiforces Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 22 hours ago, stevehnz said: There won't be many of us on here know what you're referring to there. Steve. I think the old sawmill now resides at the Pigeon Valley steam museum, as someone tried to get grandad to teach the museum workers on how to operate the sawmill many moons ago. It is still a fantastic piece of machinery to watch in operation, but a WHS nightmare to maintain it in running order. Just like the old Russian Carrier 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Exkiwiforces said: Just like the old Russian Carrier 😊 Yes, yes Admiral Kuznetsov most older Carrier in the world: Construction started September 1, 1982 Launched December 4, 1985 In service - January 20, 1991 Status: in the Navy - Modernization of course.... ......somewhere now after these lines weep bitterly with senile tears: CVN-68 Nimitz Construction started: June 22, 1968 In service: May 3, 1975 Type "Nimitz" Status: In the Navy CVN-69 Dwight Eisenhower Construction started: August 15, 1970 In service: October 18, 1977 Type "Nimitz" Status: In the Navy CVN-70 Carl Vinson Construction started: October 11, 1975 In service: March 13, 1981 Type "Nimitz" Status: In the Navy CVN-71 "Theodore Roosevelt" October 31, 1981 In service: October 25, 1986 Type "Nimitz" Status: In the Navy CVN-72 Abraham Lincoln Construction started: November 3, 1982 In service: November 11, 1989 Type "Nimitz" Status: In the Navy ...and for some reason no one writes in this case about the sawmill and the old aircraft carriers, yeppp.... 🤔 But maybe I something don't know, maybe after Admiral Kuznetsov Carrier next generation carrier has the ability to launch: -strategic bomber B-52, B-1, B-2 & C-5 / C-17? 😁 - SSN "Sea Wolf" / "Los Angeles" from deck? 😁 -strategic missile???😁 - UFO???😁 Maybe next generation carrier have solar battery engine??? Wind power engine??? ....no??? 😁 B.R. Serge Edited February 28, 2020 by Aardvark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Exkiwiforces said: I think the old sawmill now resides at the Pigeon Valley steam museum, as someone tried to get grandad to teach the museum workers on how to operate the sawmill many moons ago. It is still a fantastic piece of machinery to watch in operation, but a WHS nightmare to maintain it in running order. Just like the old Russian Carrier 😊 It cannot honestly be said the Kuznetsov is a fantastic piece of machinery to watch......its way past it's appointment with a scrap yard, but Russian ego will not allow them to scrap it come what may........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Aardvark said: 🤔 But maybe I something don't know, maybe after Admiral Kuznetsov Carrier next generation carrier has the ability to launch: -strategic bomber B-52, B-1, B-2 & C-5 / C-17? 😁 You called?...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: ......its way past it's appointment with a scrap yard, Chinese sistership Kuznetsov look at this phrase in surprise... 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: but Russian ego will not allow them to scrap it come what may........ ego allowed "Minsk", "Novorossiysk" to be scrapped, ego allowed not to redeem the "Varyag", ego allowed to sell "Kiev" to China, "Baku" to India, but ego will not allow "Kuznetsov" to be scrapped? Awesome! 2 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: You called?...... How about launch(?): 7 hours ago, Aardvark said: launch: -strategic bomber B-52, B-1, B-2 & C-5 / C-17? 😉😁 ....but of course I know landing big plane on any is possible: but only once! 😁😁 B.R. Serge 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Aardvark said: Chinese sistership Kuznetsov look at this phrase in surprise... ego allowed "Minsk", "Novorossiysk" to be scrapped, ego allowed not to redeem the "Varyag", ego allowed to sell "Kiev" to China, "Baku" to India, but ego will not allow "Kuznetsov" to be scrapped? Awesome! How about launch(?): 😉😁 ....but of course I know landing big plane on any is possible: but only once! 😁😁 B.R. The Kiev and Minsk were in another era and incapable of operating modern jet fighters. At the point Kuznetsov's sister was sold to China, Russia simply didn't have the money or willpower to complete it. Kuznetsov has become a status symbol, how can the Russian Navy - a world power, not have a carrier? Until such time as Russia is able to build a replacement Kuznetsov will soldier on....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkiwiforces Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Stealthman said: It cannot honestly be said the Kuznetsov is a fantastic piece of machinery to watch......its way past it's appointment with a scrap yard, but Russian ego will not allow them to scrap it come what may........ I just find it interesting to watch the Russia struggle to maintain a capability and a Ship well pass its prime especially every time the Russians put it to sea, it’s need a tugboat in support. But you right about the Russian Ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: The Kiev and Minsk were in another era and incapable of operating modern jet fighters. "Baku", modernized sistreship "Kiev", "Minsk" & "Novorossiysk", now, under the India name of "Vikramadia", he is quietly laughing with this statement, when launching the MiG-29K from his deck, yeppp... 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: At the point Kuznetsov's sister was sold to China, Russia simply didn't have the money The fact that the then Russian Federation did not have money tell the former American advisers to the government of the Russian Federation convicted in the United States, the US government, for illegal enrichment in the then Russian Federation. 😁 In fact, even then and now there was money .... but ..... as an example, Putin and Sobyanin (Moscow mayor) opened an entertainment center called the “Russian Disneyland”, the construction of which cost a 1 000 000 000 (billion) $, yesterday or the day before yesterday, but on carriers not money - because "impoverished" country, yeppp..... ....therefore, if tomorrow the war the Russian Federation sends clowns, nesting dolls and Mickey-Mouse from entertainment center called the “Russian Disneyland” instead of an aircraft carrier .... 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: willpower to complete it. That more correct and close to true as for my. 2 hours ago, Stealthman said: Kuznetsov has become a status symbol, how can the Russian Navy - a world power, not have a carrier? Until such time as Russia is able to build a replacement Kuznetsov will soldier on....... And what's the status? The abandonment of the aircraft carrier will make a lot of coastal infrastructure unnecessary, starting from NITKA complexes and ending with the disbandment of aviation units, but the most important thing will not be trained pilots of carrier-based aviation, piece and very expensive goods that need to be taught and prepared for a very long time. 1 hour ago, Exkiwiforces said: especially every time the Russians put it to sea, it’s need a tugboat in support. Most BIG ship put it to sea with tugboat because it's not a cruise small yacht this is a BIG ship. B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Calculated the amount of damage from the fire, it amounted to 300-350 million RuR , which is currently 4 - 4,6 million $ Resources: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6117557.html Entered to service is planned for 2022. B.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I dunno why you lot are belly aching about some old Russian gash barge ....we have two new gash barges at least the russian can define the words aircraft carrier....whereas QE and PoW er....car park or lay apart store..still im sure it will be right in the end ....hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Forgive me for having a chuckle reading some of the comments after having seen this topic... Key takeaway from both events is that maintenance in (dry)dock is more dangerous when procedures are not followed. Suspect cost-cutting doesn't help here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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