Michael Morris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I'm thinking about producing a model of the X-RV lifting body from the film Marooned. One option is to depict suspended from the helicopter which in the film transports it to Cape Canaveral. (see attached picture). But what type of helicopter is it? It looks a bit like a Sikorsky CH-53, but of course I could be VERY wrong. https://photos.app.goo.gl/pRQxnWoasmYHmuXm9 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hi Michael I think you are almost right - it looks like it might be the CH-53's smaller, older cousin the HH-3 Jolly Green Giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Richard E said: Hi Michael I think you are almost right - it looks like it might be the CH-53's smaller, older cousin the HH-3 Jolly Green Giant You are right, that is a HH-3 Jolly green ..... cheers, Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thanks Just found this http://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=Marooned_(1969). They name is as a Sikorsky CH-3C c/n 61527 s/n 64-14224 of the USAF. Reading some more it looks as though the HH-53 and CH-3C were essentially the same aircraft. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The CH-3C was a development from the SH-3 Sea King. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-61R There was an HH-3 version. The CH-53/HH-53 was a completely separate and much larger design. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53_Sea_Stallion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Revell made a kit many years ago. It was a very nice kit covered in rivets but a good base for a nice model. Although 1/72nd was the scale, I have some suspicion a suggestion that it was just off that comes to mind. To me it wasn't obvious compaired to a Sea King. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I think that at least part of the confusion stems from the name used by the USAF HH-3E = Jolly Green Giant HH-53 = Super Jolly Green Giant The HH/ CH-53 has been developed over the years into the 3 engined CH-53E Super Stallion / MH-53E Sea Dragon and now the CH-53K King Stallion, which will be the largest / heaviest helicopter in the US armed services. No doubt if the USAF were ever to take it up (unlikely) then it would become the “Super Duper Jolly Green Giant”!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Thanks everyone. It looks like the Revell kit of the CH-3C is going to be my best bet. I'll keep an eye on FleaBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 That's definitely an S-61R, the Sea King variant with the CH-35-style tail and the reversed undercarriage. Whether it’s an actual HH-3 is less clear - it could be a CH-3C, as it has none of the lumps and probes that the HH-3E rescue version had. Or it could be an early HH-3E before the lumps and probes. The yellow band on the tail almost certainly makes it USAF either way. I don’t think it’s an HH-3F as it has no Coast Guard titles. In any event, there’s not much around in kit form, if memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) I recall two in 1/72, one being Revell but I'm not sure about the other - could it even have been Lindberg? I don't think it was quite that old... PS Maybe Aurora? Edited December 5, 2019 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 When you say 'name that helicopter' I was going to suggest Helicopter McHelicopterface. Or Brian. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 This is the kit you need https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/233389514104?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=233389514104&targetid=595627725353&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046489&poi=&campaignid=6619151993&mkgroupid=84510981528&rlsatarget=pla-595627725353&abcId=1140496&merchantid=115227118&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4965wZ-f5gIVwrHtCh3_ew9vEAQYASABEgJr-_D_BwE As you can see, it’s silly money, but maybe if you put something in the wants section, someone may do a deal? Good luck. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Looks like an early HH-3 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansReggelsen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Kingkit has the Lindberg (Ex-Aurora?) https://www.kingkit.co.uk/product/lindberg-aircraft-1-72-71141-hh-3e-jolly-green-giant Cheers Hans J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Whirlybirds also do a 1/72nd resin kit of various versions of this helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 There have been three injection moulded CH-3/HH-3 kits, all quite old - the fore-mentioned Revell is the best of them... ....there were also offerings by Aurora and Lindberg - one of which was re-issued by Starfix, and those appear often on eBay... Whirlykits have done resin kits - one of which is being built with a C-130 right here on BM: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 There is this Starfix kit. It's rubbish. 4 There is another Jolly Green Giant by Revell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The old injection kits are pretty crud really if you get familiar with the type. The Sikorsky S-61 family (from which the S-61A/ SH-3 / Sea King, civilian S-61L,M,N and utility S-61R/CH-3/HH-3 are all part of) all share a distinct change in fuselage cross section under the engines. It's one of those once seen/never unseen things and it's completely missing from the old plastic HH-3 kits. The rotor heads, glazings etc are all very crude too. On the plus side they are often very cheap. A decent one could be made using a more modern Sea King as a basis and just using the rear cabin, cargo ramp, tail boom, pylon and sponsons from the Revell HH-3E and throw the rest away. The Whirlybird kit is by contrast accurate and nicely detailed, but it was £67.50 for a 1/72 helicopter when I bought mine! Just as a point of interest, the CH- designation was for all the basic cargo helicopter types. The HH- was "heavy helicopter" which in practise meant rescue helicopters. You wouldn't want to use a HH-anything for carrying slung loads - they were usually* weighed down with armour plating, defensive guns and usually long range fuel tanks. You'd want a basic, lighter CH- for carrying stuff. *the HH-3E was the USAF combat search and rescue chopper with armour, guns and LR tanks. The HH-3F was used by the coast guard and still had the personnel winch etc but didn't need the armour. Looks pretty much the same from outside except white and red rather than green & tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The helicopter in the picture is definitely a USAF CH-3C/E. The two only differed in the engine variant installed and most C were converted into E in around 1968. 41st ARRS at Patrick AFB used the CH-3 to support various space programs, starting with the Gemini and through the Apollo era into the early days of Space Shuttle operations. I would expect this to be a helicopter from that unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 ^ Wot they said. HH-3. Aurora/Revell did it, I have one built up on the shelf beside me as the 67th ARRS flew them from RAF Woodbridge. It's slightly underscale. Basic, rivets like man-hole covers. Whirlykits do it - for a price, and that Kingkit is way over asking price. You should be able to find one half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Speaking of CH-3/HH-3 kits, the Lindberg one has been available til very recently and can still be found for a tenner or little more There's been kits made under a couple of Polish names, like ZTS Plastyk and Chematic. As most of these kits, it's likely a clone of someone else's kit, don't know which one though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 At one time I had unbuilt examples of the Revell , Aurora and Starfix kits but sold them as a job lot a few years back , from what I recall Revell was a bit sharper and finer although Aurora had one or two better detail features and a cargo frame but worse drop tanks and that the Starfix kit seemed to be a mix of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikQuattro Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) On 12/5/2019 at 2:32 AM, EwenS said: I think that at least part of the confusion stems from the name used by the USAF HH-3E = Jolly Green Giant HH-53 = Super Jolly Green Giant The HH/ CH-53 has been developed over the years into the 3 engined CH-53E Super Stallion / MH-53E Sea Dragon and now the CH-53K King Stallion, which will be the largest / heaviest helicopter in the US armed services. No doubt if the USAF were ever to take it up (unlikely) then it would become the “Super Duper Jolly Green Giant”!! Hi Ewen, the USAF did take it up (the H-53 airframe, but not the 3 engine version), their version was the MH-53J Pave Low, thought I have to admit "Super Duper Jolly Green Giant" is a much more exciting name The Pave Low's role in the USAF was replaced with the Osprey. Edited December 19, 2019 by MikQuattro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistervampire319 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Don't know if you got anywhere on your search for a Revell HH-3. But Atlantis models bought Revell and just re-released the Jolly Green. https://www.atlantis-models.com/preorderjollygreengiantrescuehelicopterhh-3e172atlantis.aspx?utm_source=cheyenne+peacemaker&utm_campaign=12-8-19&utm_medium=email 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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