Gisbod Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Hi, Thought I’d share my next project - Airfix’s new tool 1/48 Hurricane Mk.1 and the Resin & Brass NeOmega Catapult. I saw the catapult at Telford and just had to have it, so I went scurrying round and found myself a Hurricane to sit on it with a few aftermarket items to spruce it up. A limited number of these CAM ships (Catapult, Aircraft, Merchant) were operated with (surprisingly!) some success. Not a plum posting for the pilots I would imagine! First thoughts on the Hurricane are excellent! I’m surprised at the level of detail already for the cockpit and wings. The gun bays can be opened, but my initial thought is to keep them closed. The Catapult looks great in the box.. Cheers Guy Edited November 28, 2019 by Gisbod 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbow Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Definitely pulling a seat up to follow this if you don't mind. I, like you, saw and bought the catapult from the Neomega stand at Telford as I thought it was a cracking way to display the Hurricane. Great progress so far! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, Gisbod said: First thoughts on the Hurricane are excellent! I’m surprised at the level of detail already for the cockpit and wings. The gun bays can be opened, but my initial thought is to keep them closed. Hi Guy Have a read of this, as it deals with the Airfix Hurricane, warts and all. Never got an explanation of the paint job here Sea Hurricane by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr There are some great photos about showing the Hurricane mounted on the catapult very well. (I'll see if they are still about) Also, check what prop you use, do you have a specific subject in mind? cheers T PS this is the one I had in mind, note the catapult attachment hatches, and the sealed up gun ports and shell ejector slots underwing, and the cover on, and hose into the radiator. Pic will enlarge if opened in new tab more CAM pics here https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hurricane/Sea-Hurricane.html Note this plane has the Hurricane Rotol spinner, not in the Airfix kit. see here https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980181-hawker-hurricane-propellers-and-spinners-a-modellers-guide/ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Oh, this is so cool! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 Troy: Many thanks! Lots of very useful info there, much appreciated. I’m going for this one - I’ve already got custom masks for it. Guy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 Ps Troy, is there a link to that Hurricane review you mentioned? Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Gisbod said: Ps Troy, is there a link to that Hurricane review you mentioned? Guy here forgot to paste the link in also..my sig is there for a reaon compared to the above, the photo shows non standard underwing (positions and proportions) and Fuselage roundel, blue ring is thicker than usual. This one has the blunt Spitfire Rotol (in the kit) this LU-V has the DH Hurricane unit (in the kit) IIRC this plane was flown, or to be flown by the late Wing Commander 'Tim' Elkington, who I corresponded with a while back. I may have a bigger picture somewhere HTH PS https://johnelkington.com/2010/02/cam-ships-remembered/ PPS I have attached a copy of photo of a Hurricane being offloaded onto a barge in Halifax, prior to its transfer to HMS Seaborn. The picture was taken by a CAM ship pilot Tim Elkington, who went on to flying Hurricanes in Russia P3544 more in the linked thread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 Blimey Troy, That’s above and beyond the call of Britmodeller duty! Thank you. Loads to pore over there! Guy 🤩 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 I’ve been pressing on and the cockpit didn’t take too long to finish. The Yahu instrument panel is insanely good and it feels like cheating using it! There are other areas with photo etch - I only had a set for the Hasegawa Hurricane, but a lot of it was still useable for the Airfix kit 😉 The seat harnesses are HGW and although fiddly, are worth the effort I reckon. I've closed everything up (fuselage & wings) and the fit is pretty good. I’ll need to tidy up a couple of seams but nothing too drastic. Guy 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Off to a good start and making great progress Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 This is a very cool project; definitely got my attention. I recently acquired Neomega’s not dissimilar section of 1/48 RN catapult, designed for the Airfix Walrus. It looks gorgeous, though I haven’t got further than opening the box yet. Being a contrary sort of git I think I will probably use it for my Tamiya Swordfish floatplane; it will need a bit of adaptation in the cradle, but should otherwise be fine. It also enabled me to feel safe in donating Tamiya’s beaching gear to @Martian Hale’s splendid Roc floatplane target tug (of which there may well be a photo in the aviator’s dictionary alongside the entry for “parasite drag”!). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Dear Guy When the Hurricat was launched, wooden blocks had benn fitted to keep the flaps set at the correct angle for more lift. Once airborne the flaps were jiggled so they fell out. Will that be replicated on your model? Regards Toby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 They did something similar with wooden wedges in the flaps when launching Spitfires from carriers on the Malta ‘club runs’. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan_Farsight Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I always thought this was a courageous role to take on as a pilot, heavens forbid if you ever had to operate after sunset. Great start on the project so far, love the interior details, and will be following with interest! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Ah that’s interesting, no I didn’t know that.. Any pictures/ images of the said blocks? Guy ps Eduard flaps partially installed: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astir8 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 There was a description in Geoffrey Wellum's "First Light" of wooden wedges being used on the Malta-bound Spitfires butit went no further than the fact that a lucky seaman was delegated to hold them in position while the flaps were retracted - and trying to avoid the loss of fingers in the process! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Gisbod said: Any pictures/ images of the said blocks? just wood cut the right angle. Hurricane (and Spitfire flaps) are a simple up/down affair, so setting an angle would require them open, add block, shut so it sets the angle and holds the piece of wood in place, open the flaps when in flight, block drops out, shut flaps as normal. in the links I posted above there are images like this Hurrican flap when dropped are open wider than this, as seen below, so I'd just eyeball the angle from the pics above. which is from this very useful walkround cheers T 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Many thanks again! Yes, the Sea Hurricane at Old Warden is lovely, I went there for an air show last year and got a few pictures... It’s just about the best airshow for photography! Here are a couple of others... Fabulous day out!! I’ll think on the blocks... Guy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 9:10 PM, Troy Smith said: Never got an explanation of the paint job here Sea Hurricane by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr Salt on areas of the airframe that they couldn’t reach to clean? Let’s face it, they weren’t going to be too fussed about long-term corrosion, cos they were planning to chuck the poor beastie into the Oggwash after one sortie anyway. Just a guess. Great photo, anyway. Ditching or parachuting into that kind of sea would be dicey at the best of times; factor in Arctic temperatures when people died of cold shock within a very short time of immersion, all the more so. Those boys were unbelievably brave. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Ditching or parachuting into that kind of sea would be dicey at the best of times; factor in Arctic temperatures when people died of cold shock within a very short time of immersion, all the more so. Those boys were unbelievably brave. Back in the day I did ditching drills in the Solent in full immersion suits in May time and people were really struggling after 20 mins. There’s a graph somewhere of survival times v temps etc and I seem to remember it being down to a couple of minutes at extreme temperatures.. As you say, the courage required to do that is pretty staggering - no immersion suits back then. Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Likewise; wet winching every 2 years, with the Solent, Falmouth Bay, Portland Harbour and the Clyde Approaches all sampled at some point. And that was wearing a goon bag (definitely not available to WW2 Hurricat pilots!), with a safety boat and knowing that in the end you’d definitely be rescued. My Dad told me that when he went through St Vincent for his initial Fleet Air Arm training in 1943 (en route to being a Barracuda Observer) his swimming was OK but nothing more; he asked the Instructor, a veteran of Artic Convoys, whether he could have extra tuition out of hours, and was told “Not really worth it, lad; if you’re unlucky enough to get shot down or sunk, it just takes the swimmers a little longer to drown”. A Sea King friend of mine ditched in the South Atlantic, where the sea surface temperature is considerably lower than the UK because of the lack of Gulf Stream. He and all his crew survived OK, but he said that the effect of suddenly entering the cold water literally took your breath away; it makes you involuntarily gasp, which can be fatal if your gasp occurs when your mouth is underwater. And the Arctic would be even worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 It’s a very interesting thread, Guy... Nice start with a cockpit - looks perfect! Watching your progress here. 👍🍿 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Likewise; wet winching every 2 years, with the Solent, Falmouth Bay, Portland Harbour and the Clyde Approaches all sampled at some point. And that was wearing a goon bag (definitely not available to WW2 Hurricat pilots!), with a safety boat and knowing that in the end you’d definitely be rescued. My Dad told me that when he went through St Vincent for his initial Fleet Air Arm training in 1943 (en route to being a Barracuda Observer) his swimming was OK but nothing more; he asked the Instructor, a veteran of Artic Convoys, whether he could have extra tuition out of hours, and was told “Not really worth it, lad; if you’re unlucky enough to get shot down or sunk, it just takes the swimmers a little longer to drown”. The dunker was my least favourite though! Used to dread that every year 🙄 Your Dad sounds like he had a fascinating career! My Dad was a photographer on HMS Eagle in the early 50’s.. I’ve got a stack of fabulous photos of aircraft from the time - Firefly’s, Sea Hawks, Avengers etc 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 I was planning on completing the Hurricane in it’s entirety, but the instructions for the Catapult are a bit vague as regards the positioning of the forward spools - the bit that is permanently attached to the aircraft - that slots into the catapult. So basically, I need to build the cradle first so I can be sure of the positioning. Guy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltcarBoB Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Loving this build so far, keep up the good work. Its amazing how the Hurricat pilots could fly let alone climb into the cockpit what with walking around with a huge pair of solid Brass balls in the long john department 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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