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Beard

Matchbox 1/72 Lysander conversion to Mk1 or MkIII

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On checking my stash, I find I have three Matchbox Lysanders and fancy making something other than a MkII so my question is: how easy is it to convert to a Mercury-engined variant? 

 

 

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You would need a whole new cowl and engine.

 

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Chris

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Thanks Chris. My failing eyesight (I now wear two pairs of glasses when working, a lá Steve Fletcher of The Repair Shop) means I had difficulty working seeing the bumps on the Mercury cowling; that drawing makes the differences clear.

 

I reckon a scrap Blenheim I cowling would do the job and provide the correct engine. What do the rest of you think?

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Beard said:

What do the rest of you think?

I think it would do the job. 👍

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9 minutes ago, Heather Kay said:

I think it would do the job. 👍

I'm quite relieved to hear that because I currently have a winning bid on a Blenheim on eB*y.

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Matchbox ones sell quite strongly these days if they are in good condition, and especially in early boxes, so you might consider selling the best one of the three you have, and putting to the money to the new Dora Wings III 

 

Don't forget you also need to change to the more rounded tailplane for a I or III.  If this means nothing to you have a look at the Dora Wings sprues as that kit comes with both patterns 

 

Edited by Work In Progress

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Use existing set:Kora models DS7250 Westland Lysander I,III

cheers 

P.

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2 minutes ago, airbus said:

cheers

Ooh, thanks for that. Mind you, it’s pretty expensive and doesn’t seem to be readily available after my quick search. Kitbashing across from a (Frog/Revell) Blenheim is probably cheaper.

 

I did just that to convert a Frog/Eastern Express Miles Master to a MkII variant. 

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Also from what it looks like on Scalemates it omits the tailplanes, so you still need some hand-crafting there.

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IIRC Pavla also did a 1/72 Lysander- the the links below for two reviews; I don't have one, so I can't comment on the accuracy of the reviews- you know how that goes! I would think the Dora Wings kit would be the class of the field- I hope it's better than their P-63 Kingcobras were, but that's another forum topic discussion.

Mike

 

https://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/gb/plysanderpreview.htm

 

https://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/westland-lysander-mkii

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Upper views:

 

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Chris

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9 hours ago, 72modeler said:

IIRC Pavla also did a 1/72 Lysander- the the links below for two reviews; I don't have one, so I can't comment on the accuracy of the reviews- you know how that goes! I would think the Dora Wings kit would be the class of the field- I hope it's better than their P-63 Kingcobras were, but that's another forum topic discussion.

Mike

 

https://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/gb/plysanderpreview.htm

 

https://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/westland-lysander-mkii

Those are Perseus-engined II though, so the same mark as the Matchbox kits he already has

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I am wanting to scratch build the interior for my (same) Matchbox Lysander, albeit a Mk.II. Looking for some clear 1/72 plans of the structure. It’s a shame there is no airwaves etch for this kit!?

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2 hours ago, phat trev said:

I am wanting to scratch build the interior for my (same) Matchbox Lysander, albeit a Mk.II. Looking for some clear 1/72 plans of the structure. It’s a shame there is no airwaves etch for this kit!?

There's an old Scale Models article on detailing the 1/32nd kit. (August 1979). Shouldn't be too hard to find a copy. Also a follow up article the following month with a 3D cutaway drawing. Contents cover everything you might want to shove into a 1/72nd kit.................

 

Paul.

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36 minutes ago, Paul Thompson said:

There's an old Scale Models article on detailing the 1/32nd kit. (August 1979). Shouldn't be too hard to find a copy. 

 

indeed 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCALE-MODELS-MAGAZINE-August-1979-Comper-Swift-Polikarpov-I-16-Lysander-Apollo-/163655352498

 

Though for literally just a couple of quid more the Haynes book is absolutely excellent - by far the best of the Haynes aviation-related books I've seen - and contains everything you need to superdetail a Lysander, especially if it's the Shuttleworth III. 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-Westland-Lysander-Manual-Hardback-Non-Fiction-Books-Brand-New/383146311752

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There are lots of interior shots and details in this book:

 

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Chris

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On 28 November 2019 at 8:36 PM, Work In Progress said:

Matchbox ones sell quite strongly these days if they are in good condition, and especially in early boxes, so you might consider selling the best one of the three you have, and putting to the money to the new Dora Wings III 

 

Don't forget you also need to change to the more rounded tailplane for a I or III.  If this means nothing to you have a look at the Dora Wings sprues as that kit comes with both patterns 

 

Thanks, I'll have to check the boxing and condition of the two that are still in the stash before attempting to sell them (and I have about 50 or 60 1/35th WW2 AFVs to sell first).

The tailplane looks like it could be sorted with a bit of sanding.

 

 

On 28 November 2019 at 9:28 PM, airbus said:

Use existing set:Kora models DS7250 Westland Lysander I,III

cheers 

P.

Thanks, although a Mercury cowling and engine from a scrapped Blenheim would be far cheaper. Why oh why did I dump all the unfinished kits when I moved?

 

On 28 November 2019 at 10:56 PM, 72modeler said:

IIRC Pavla also did a 1/72 Lysander- the the links below for two reviews; I don't have one, so I can't comment on the accuracy of the reviews- you know how that goes! I would think the Dora Wings kit would be the class of the field- I hope it's better than their P-63 Kingcobras were, but that's another forum topic discussion.

Mike

 

https://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/gb/plysanderpreview.htm

 

https://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/westland-lysander-mkii

I've read a review of the Dora Wings Lysander and it appears to be very nice. Mind you, it's a Mercury-engined version...

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I forgot to thank everyone who replied. I think I'll be going down the route of using a spare Blenheim cowling. Just need to get my hands on one or two now.

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1 minute ago, Beard said:

Just need to get my hands on one or two now.

There’s one here if you need it, of course. ;) 

 

If you do want it, it’s free to a good home, and I’m happy to mail it out to you.

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29 minutes ago, Heather Kay said:

There’s one here if you need it, of course. ;) 

 

If you do want it, it’s free to a good home, and I’m happy to mail it out to you.

Thanks for the offer, I'll PM you.

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I use the S.B.S Resin Bristol Blenheim engine detail set when I converted my Frog Miles Master Mk.III to a Mk.II GT. The Mercury engine was really nicely detailed, far better than anything I could have achieved from kit bashing.

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