Hook Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: Looks not so bad!.. The understatement of the day..! Cheers, Andre 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 9:47 PM, billn53 said: You make this 3-D design look so easy… As the Saying goes Bill, "He does it with Mirrors" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I like what you've done with the J58's Serkan. Good Job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) On 9/7/2021 at 8:58 PM, Serkan Sen said: When I finish the NLG bay and assembly parts should I model AG330 starter cart as next? I have checked Hypersonic Models kit but this tiny model is a bit costly. I think I can model most of the details in few days... 🤔 On 9/7/2021 at 9:17 PM, LorenSharp said: I would Serkan. That's what I had planned to do when I finally get around to doing my A-12. Not only cheaper, but probably add more detail than they have. I am afraid the joke has turned out to reality. Yesterday I started to model AG-330 starter cart too. Most probably this 3D printing project will take its place in the Hall of Shame nearby the other dozens of unfinished projects... I have found significant amount of pictures to model the side, front, rear and top of the cart reasonably well. But unfortunately there is no image of the bottom to see a bit the chassis detail. Ok, I am not expecting that any visitor will lay down on the floor and take some pictures at the museum... Serkan Edited September 13, 2021 by Serkan Sen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 hours ago, LorenSharp said: I like what you've done with the J58's Serkan. Good Job! Thanks Loren, I am quite sure that it will look very good when I add some afterburner details too. Serkan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/11/2021 at 7:28 AM, Serkan Sen said: If the correct shape and dimensions are available the rest is not so difficult. The difficult part is to find reliable reference material. Maybe to you but to a mere mortal such as I you are doing magic. My mind just can't work in the way CAD needs, but watching what can be achieved is fascinating. That nose gear bay may be worth reproducing in 1/48 as there must be hundreds of the Italeri kits in stashes and maybe the Revell kit will need it too. It's going to be very interesting when the Revell and then Hypersonic/Gaspatch kits appear. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SleeperService said: That nose gear bay may be worth reproducing in 1/48 as there must be hundreds of the Italeri kits in stashes... I will print all engine/nozzle and nose wheel bay details at least for my own pending 1:48 Italeri Blackbird: Or should I build this monster as A-12B "Titanium Goose"?.. Edited September 13, 2021 by Serkan Sen 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 I will start a new topic soon because I made quick progress on modelling AG-330 starter cart: Serkan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Ok, here is the new topic: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 12:59 PM, Serkan Sen said: Or should I build this monster as A-12B "Titanium Goose"?.. Go for it! - you know you want to... Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 Back to J-58 modelling: The engine variable area exhaust nozzle feathers were added to model: Next step is to add afterburner can details... Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 This is amazing. Nothing I'll ever be able to copy, so it's a fascinating view into the process. I can see how 3D design and print will become a huge part of the hobby in time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alan P said: This is amazing. Nothing I'll ever be able to copy, so it's a fascinating view into the process. I can see how 3D design and print will become a huge part of the hobby in time Thanks Alan, Once you get the basic principles of descriptive geometry and CAD tool functions the rest is only matter of time availability and the creativity. My early 3D printing results which were given below have highly motivated me to make further improvements on nozzle/exhaust, NLG bay/assy and cockpit areas. Now I am very close to complete the engine part. The next area will be the cockpit tub. Serkan Edited September 16, 2021 by Serkan Sen 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) The rear part of afterburner can was added to model: Next step is to complete afterburner can by adding the forward part. Serkan Edited September 16, 2021 by Serkan Sen 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Serkan Sen said: Thanks Alan, Once you get the basic principles of descriptive geometry and CAD tool functions the rest is only matter of time availability and the creativity. My early 3D printing results which were given below have highly motivated me to make further improvements on nozzle/exhaust, NLG bay/assy and cockpit areas. Now I am very close to complete the engine part. The next area will be the cockpit tub. Serkan Many, many years ago when I first learned 3d Modeling and animation, I had trouble wrapping my head around the building models concept. Then I I remembered only 3 shapes will determine an objects look, no matter how complex . A cone, a box, a tube. and you are either removing that shape, or adding that shape to the final result. Once you break down something into those 3 shapes the rest is your imagination.. Great job on the heart of the Blackbird Serkan! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LorenSharp said: Many, many years ago when I first learned 3d Modeling and animation, I had trouble wrapping my head around the building models concept. Then I I remembered only 3 shapes will determine an objects look, no matter how complex . A cone, a box, a tube. and you are either removing that shape, or adding that shape to the final result. Once you break down something into those 3 shapes the rest is your imagination.. Great job on the heart of the Blackbird Serkan! Thanks Loren, you are almost right but you have forgotten to add the sphere to basic shape list 😄 This is a good example to your statement which is the basic drawing of this Oxcart model: Edited September 16, 2021 by Serkan Sen 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 DOH! You're right Serkan, I forgot that one. That's what happens when one posts before having coffee upon waking up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 The forward part of the afterburner can was modelled as well: The L brackets and the rivets were modelled a bit oversized to be able to print them in 1:72 scale (I hope they will be visible in printed parts). Next step is to add the afterburner rings... Serkan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorglub Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 This work is simply impressive. I can hardly imagine the hours of research, scaling, rectifications, design work... It is wonderful to follow: thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 The afterburner rings were added to assembly: Next step is to make a test print... Serkan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 The 3D printing file was generated from nozzle STL files: Both parts will be printed both in 1:72 and 1:48 scales... Serkan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Here are the printed nozzle assembly: I had to make some iterations to set the optimum wall thickness of the details. Here are the evolution of the 3D model left to right: As the first attempt I have kept the thinnest wall thickness around 0.15mm which failed especially during cleaning process with IPA. Also the afterburner rings were printed together with the afterburner can which makes the painting the details very difficult. As the second attempt I have filled all the exhaust exterior details and increased the thickness of the variable area exhaust nozzle feathers. Also I have printed the afterburner rings separately. But it partially failed printing the feathers. As the third attempt I have increased the feather thickness and also made some improvements on afterburner rings. During this attempt I have forgotten the tighten the printing plate which caused the misaligned z layers (taht can be seen clearly on printed parts). Here is the close view of afterburner rings: Next step is the fit test with 1:72 and 1:48 exhaust parts... Serkan 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Here are the nozzle and exhaust assemblies in 1:72 and 1:48 scales: The nozzle ring and tertiary doors section in 1:48 is missing because this section was already glued to airframe. But this part will be also printed in 1:48 scale during that build. Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 The ejection seat model was reworked. The below images show the new (with base) and old models. The wall thicknesses were increased (>0.2mm) and the support base was added. Also the seat cushion and seat rest were modified/added. The model was sent to printer. It will take around 2 hours... Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Here are the freshly made Oxcart seats in 1:48 and 1:72 scales: Although there are some areas to be improved (such as knee protectors etc.) the overall results look well detailed for such tiny parts. Next step is to start cockpit tub... Serkan 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now