Rémi Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Mon spitfire etant fini, c'est le moment de sortir une autre maquette de la pile My Spitfire Mk22 finish, it's time to build another model. This time I choose in my stach a sword model I have several sword kit but it's the first time I built one I always find their artbox beautifull After some hesitation, I choose the AD-4W/AEW and specially the british version in "Musketer Operation" with his black/yellow stripes. The artbox On the net, we find some photo of real aircraft. The artbox has some little error: - The A is to great - The attack angle mark are only on the left side This error can easily corrected For now I haven't photo of the kit, but I made some test fit The kit look like good but need some attention on several point - The front radar- junction - The fuselage-wing junction : fuselage appear little thin Another problem, if you follow the advice for the rear wheels bay, it is impossible to built. The upper piece is too long and with a bad curve. This piece should be rebuild but I haven't the courage I glued the side panels directly on the fuselage. I add the upper part on one fuselage side With this, if it is not perfect, this will make illusion 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I will sit and watch this one, please. Thanks Remi. Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) To add to your list, you can see that the fuselage roundel and code are transposed. Edited November 4, 2019 by RidgeRunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbodyx Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Yeovilton May 2016. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Those pictures are just so sad😢 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, hsr said: Those pictures are just so sad😢 Sad but at least its not scrap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Based on some detailed research by my go-to guy for AD Skyraiders, Ed Barhtelmes, I'm updating my post on the Sword kit. See https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2019/08/sword-172-douglas-ad-4w-skyraider.html Still to come are illustrations of the different antenna configurations by BuNo block and a cross reference of the AEW.1 serial numbers versus BuNos. I'm also building one but making slow progress. Both Ed and I had trouble putting the tail wheel well together (step 1). He put more effort into it than I did; I just slid the side parts 14 and 15 forward with respect to part 23 (the top of the well) and then cut off the aft end of 23 that was sticking out before adding part 62. There was still a small gap at the forward end between the sides and the top but it can't be seen when installed. Another necessary kludge is to provide a better mounting point for the tail gear in the well. It is similarly necessary to hog out the dimples on the fuselage to accommodate the pins on the horizontal stabilizer (note that part numbers 25 and 29 are reversed in the instructions but the pin locations are Murphy-proof. There are some other assembly and markings glitches noted in the link above. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Many thanks for this informations. I have the same problem with parts 14-15 I think that this model has never been a test build by sword for this point. I search also some informations for the wheels bays. If there are in the color scheme or in other colors ? I find a photo for the cockpit who is black but not the wheels bays Edited November 6, 2019 by Rémi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'll be watching this closely, I've one of these in stock & it already looks as though there are pitfalls for the unwary. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Some little news I build the wheels bays but without follow the advice. I use the kit parts for the flanks. But I use the center part for the rear and I made the center part with evergreen plastic card You need kut some engraved on the wing For the fuselage I added some plastic card to help the build I drilled the exhaust pipe. It is easy to do and the look is far better I prefered to drill the holes for the ailerons head I glued the rear bay flanks directly on the fuselage. I added a plastic card on the gap. Now I can see the general view of the kit with global test fit I think I have some work on the fuselage/wing section 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 The next step : the cockpit I haven't photos of AD-4W cockpit. But after the paint, I think it should be possible to use photos of the classical Skyraider I paint all the cockpit in black I made a dry brush and paint some buttons in red for having some color touch in fhis black cockpit I added too seats belt. But because the canopy can't be opened I think it is not necessary to add another details. i glued the wing. On a wing, they are some works for eliminate a step I started to find the color. The notice didn't give any reference I use the paint in my stock I made 2 try The first with 4 parts X-3 (Tamiya) + 2 parts H326 (Gunze) The second with 4 parts X-3 + 4 parts H326 + 2 parts H2 Why I use the H2 glossy black ? Because I have this color in my stock and I didn't use it 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Great work so far Remi, got one in the stash too and your build is helping others (read me) to avoid the potential pitfalls. Thank you All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Remi, Follow this link. http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/douglas-skyraider-in-detail/ Good info on the AD-4W. This happens to be of the Swedish Air Force tow target aircraft. Doing a great job on this kit. Was curious about it in 1/72nd scale. Have the ESCI/ScaleCraft, AMT/ERTL kits. Many of them. This is a modified Monogram 1/48th scale A-1J way back in 1981. Watching with interest. Your progressing along quite nicely. All The Best, Ron VanDerwarker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroparkDave Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 05/11/2019 at 22:11, hsr said: Those pictures are just so sad😢 I so agree, so sad to seeing ‘my old’ Skyraider in such a state. I remember her coming from RNAS Culdrose to The Aero Park in Cornwall. She was on loan from the FAA museum and kept in the hanger looking pristine. Sadly the commercial side of the Park took over and the aircraft were pushed outside to the ravages of Cornish sea air where all thing’s aluminium turn to dust. At least she has a home back at the museum, but sadly I fear will never be restored again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 More than you probably want to know, but this a post that provides links to three of my posts on the AD-4W/AEW.1: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2019/11/douglas-ad-4waew1-and-sword-172-scale.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Hi, Fuselage closed. I inserted some plastic rod to extend the fuselage for a better fit with the wing. Wit this, the gap between the wing and fuselage is minimal I inserted the cockpit after close the fuselage. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi The radar is in place. But I need to use miliput for this. There is a gap on the radar rear. The gap is so important that I use miliput. For this, I set a tamiya tape on the fuselage. I made a miliput puddle and put it on the radar. I dry the tamiya tape and set up the radar. The water avoid the miliput to glue on the fuselage. After I glued the radar and fill putty between radar and fuselage. I think I will use acetone for smooth the putty 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Rémi - Thanks very much for taking the lead on this kit with excellent build notes. They are very helpful because you are well ahead of me. I am concerned about the location of the radome, however. It looks like it is positioned too low relative to the fuselage. If so, it will sit too low to the ground if the landing gear length is correct or the landing gear will appear to be too long (which is already a concern). The distance between the leading edge of the wing (where the upper and lower surfaces meet) and the bottom of the radome should be about 19 mm, certainly no more that 20. Could you measure it and let me know what it is on your build? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I will try to measure that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Alleouia ! After several seance of putty -sanding (I use the classical Gunze putty and the Gunze liquid putty 500 for the finish) the radar integration finished. I add some spacer for the engine. With these I think the engine placement will be better And a photo for tailspin turtle. I hope it helps 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 Last step before the paint And the silhouet paint mask for the serials are ready 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio TS Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Great job Remi. What's your feeling about the canopy? Looking to the one on my table it not convince me about dimensions. Unfortunately I haven't a drawing to compare with the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) On 11/24/2019 at 1:40 PM, Rémi said: And a photo for tailspin turtle. I hope it helps Thanks - it looks like the bottom of the radome is about 2 mm too low (it doesn’t sound like much, but there isn’t that much clearance between the bottom of the radome and the ground, only 4 mm, so it will made a notable difference visually). Ed Barthelmes spent some time fettling the interface of the radome with the bottom of the fuselage so his was closer to my best guess. If it is low, then the landing gear struts might be long enough, i.e. too long, which is a possibility although after Ed enlarged the hole in the wing that the strut goes into, they seemed about right. With the airplane level (not on its landing gear), the struts without wheels should not quite or just touch the ground (table) when the bottom of the radome does. For my drawings, see http://tailhooktopics.blogspot.com/2019/11/ad-4w-three-views.html . Note that they might not exactly match the kit since it appears to be based in part on the Hasegawa 1/72 AD (A-1) kit. Edited November 26, 2019 by Tailspin Turtle Insert link to drawings 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rémi Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Thanks for your drawing I tested my gear legs and they are a little too long. The axe of the wheels is bellow of the bottom radome Not on the photo, last night I follow the instruction and glu pieces 48-49, but after reflexion, I think these pieces are not necessary. I removed them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Rémi said: Thanks for your drawing I tested my gear legs and they are a little too long. The axe of the wheels is bellow of the bottom radome Not on the photo, last night I follow the instruction and glu pieces 48-49, but after reflexion, I think these pieces are not necessary. I removed them Thanks - Note that 48 and 49 are for the early version of the AD-4W landing gear. See https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2019/08/sword-172-douglas-ad-4w-skyraider.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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