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GWH Vulcan B1a - I've Finally Lost It --- FINISHED


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1 hour ago, Mike said:

Keep on cutting Adam

And cutting I have been....

I've really lost it now... I've cut up an entire vulcan in a day...

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There's the wing shape done. This is all snap-fitted together so nothing's glued at all yet (other than the two sides of the fin). And yes, I know I haven't removed the TFR blister yet, it will come off after the fuselage is all glued together.

I need to figure out how to tackle the jetpipes at some point... back to searching Rob's many threads I think...

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Now that is a proper triangle! I could probably do trigonometry on it, it's that triangular!

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Then there's the question of the intakes.... They're not wide enough for a B2, and not quite as narrow as a B1's but are close to it. It seems to be a very challenging part of the conversion to get right, and I think the results may be better if I leave them as is, especially as they're one piece intakes...

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I think what I'll do tonight is start working on the leading edges and the wingtips... 

Also remembered that I need to modify the tail slightly as the tip seems to be slightly different on a B1a to a B2

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Regarding the intakes, you could try gluing some 10 'thou around the lips and then fairing it in with Miliput. At that thickness of card, the putty will feather out well before you get to the point that they split into two.. At the scale you are working in, reduction of the intakes by a total of 20 'thou all round should make quite a bit of difference to their appearance.

 

Martian 👽

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1 hour ago, Martian Hale said:

Regarding the intakes, you could try gluing some 10 'thou around the lips and then fairing it in with Miliput. At that thickness of card, the putty will feather out well before you get to the point that they split into two.. At the scale you are working in, reduction of the intakes by a total of 20 'thou all round should make quite a bit of difference to their appearance.

 

Martian 👽

First I have to get some 10 'thou then... 

Think I'll try this. 

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Removing more of the wing things, I can't remember what they're called... Doesn't matter, the B1a didn't have them.

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I've been smoothing out a lot of the wing, just basic filing and sanding. They'll be finished once it's all glued together in a few weeks.

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And the other wing. There's a gap in this one which I'll need to fill later on. 

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Now to begin with the engine parts. The bits in black need removing. 

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Here the first one is temporarily fitted, nothing is glued at this point apart from the two sides of the tail. 

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They will need more work to restore the correct shape once they're properly attached. Need to do the other one next.

 

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I'm now toying with the idea of doing VX777 or 770 in this scale (1/144) or maybe 1/200 if I use a dragon kit... But I should get this one done first

 

Maybe 903 with the Concorde engine...... Or as has been previously mentioned, blue steel.... 

 

Or maybe I'll just build some B2s next....

 

Welcome to my mind at 1:44am

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9 hours ago, Adam Poultney said:

I'm now toying with the idea of doing VX777 or 770 in this scale (1/144) or maybe 1/200 if I use a dragon kit... But I should get this one done first

 

Maybe 903 with the Concorde engine...... Or as has been previously mentioned, blue steel.... 

 

Or maybe I'll just build some B2s next....

 

Welcome to my mind at 1:44am

.......or the bottom half of a Harrier for Pegasus trials. Ten minutes of googling doesn’t turn up a photo though.

 

Inspirational stuff so far 👍🏻

 

Trevor

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Now to get one of the smaller jobs done on this model,adding the ECM plate present on the B1a and filling some places where parts exclusive to the B2 would go. Filler is added, sanding will be done soon.

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Also, if I do go ahead with modifying the intakes, which I am very much on the fence about, I don't know it it would be better to do it with them already in place or not...

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So I've been having a bit of a think about the intakes. I think I'm going to attempt to improve them for a B1.

I don't have any plasticard right now, but I think I've got an idea that might just work. Those leading edges from the B2 that are sitting around, maybe I could cut those up and use them as a basis to thin the intakes...

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This is the original intake above. A little thin for a B2 but not enough to be a B1.

 

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This has a piece of plastic in, looks closer in thickness. The part would be attached to the top of the intake and blended in with milliput. 

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From in front

EDIT: not doing this now, there is a better way to do the intakes

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2 hours ago, Adam Poultney said:

So I've been having a bit of a think about the intakes. I think I'm going to attempt to improve them for a B1.

I don't have any plasticard right now, but I think I've got an idea that might just work. Those leading edges from the B2 that are sitting around, maybe I could cut those up and use them as a basis to thin the intakes...

Forget everything I just said there, I looked at once of Rob's threads again and found a better way

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Ok so ignoring my previous idea entirely, here's what I've now done.

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The whole the area that the intake inserts go in has been sanded down and the part of the leading edges before they have the first kink have also been sanding.

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The intakes also had some sanding done.

 

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On both sides.

The front part has been significant thinned to allow the intakes to sit differently in the wing which will end up being slightly thinner. 

This is very similar to what Rob did on one thread, if I can find which I will link it here.

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I got the first paint on this. The intakes are painted in Halfords White. I think I've now decided on antiflash for the scheme, I don't know what particular flavour of antiflash it will be, regular roundels or pale ones.

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Intakes in the modified mounting

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You can see how the intake sits differently now, that is all upsidedown, the gap is at the top.

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Fuselage and wing halves together. I've also painted the cockpit black. 

Rather relaxing day of binging Doctor Who and making huge progress on the vulcan.

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This is going to require a lot of filler to get right... Hopefully the intake ends up just a little thinner.

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And this needs reshaping. 

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Nose successfully reshaped. The nose probe (not glued on) looks somewhat underwhelming. I know there is a metal aftermarket one, but I'll use this one.

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More work on the intakes, they're blended in now, the thinning wasn't as much of a success as I had hoped but it'll do. 

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And the other one

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The next job was the engine exhausts. Scaled down to 1/144, the top should be ~4mm and the bottom ~3mm. This was sanded down to size. Once I had this done, I then used a drill bit too widen them as the plastic was a little thick. The left side is before drilling, the right after.

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Not the best, but it'll do.

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Holes drilled for the wingtip pitots

 

 

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On 26/10/2019 at 10:53, Max Headroom said:

.......or the bottom half of a Harrier for Pegasus trials. Ten minutes of googling doesn’t turn up a photo though.

 

Inspirational stuff so far 👍🏻

 

Trevor

Didn't know they did Pegasus trials 

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38 minutes ago, Adam Poultney said:

Didn't know they did Pegasus trials 

I don’t think any Vulcans were used for Pegasus trials; XA894 was the Olympus 320 flying test bed and XA903 flew the Olympus 593 after its Blue Steel activities.  There is at least one photo of Valiant WP199 with a Harrier centre fuselage and Pegasus FTB, but if anyone knows different please correct me!

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26 minutes ago, Timmas said:

That Victor looks rather nice beside the Vulcan. I have to say that 1/144 appeals to me but I’m not sure my eyes, or fingers can cope with it!

Yes it is a very nice scale for V Bombers. A nice size as well. That Victor needs a lot of work before it's done... 

Just wish someone would release a good Valiant in the scale seeing as the Mikromir one isn't that great at all

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35 minutes ago, stever219 said:

I don’t think any Vulcans were used for Pegasus trials; XA894 was the Olympus 320 flying test bed and XA903 flew the Olympus 593 after its Blue Steel activities.  There is at least one photo of Valiant WP199 with a Harrier centre fuselage and Pegasus FTB, but if anyone knows different please correct me!

Ohh you meant a Valiant

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