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woody37

1/48 Halifax 346 Sqn PN365 (H7-B)

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Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah I tried fool'n around with the Tamiya engines buts its the molding for the porcupine exhausts with the breather pipes that will be in the incorrect position. The 5th Tamiya Beaufighter engine will allow you to cut out and mod the molding and put the exhaust in the correct position. Yeah it is a lot of trouble yet it is a distinguishing feature of the Halifax with the Herc's. We must build to the prototype Mr Woody37...after all it is scale modelling; however its your kit......so its what ever you wish to do.

 

Don't forgets to notch the flaps if your gonna drop em. And there is bumps over the elevators where they meet the fuselage...which might be some sort of hinge location?

 

I likes the Defiant turret which helps a huge amount. Don't forget to reduce the framing..and its height as its one of the problems if you use the Airfix kit.  I'm not sure about the undersized rear turret...but I think some Halifax had a Liberator rear with twin .50cal but not sure you want to do that. My be Mr. Airfix will give us a new 1/48 scale Halifax for $350 ...by the time you finish this..lol!

 

I'm not sure about the nose on the FM kit...that may be a whole-nother-yory.

 

I've still gots that thump'n headache...

 

PHIL.

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The nose could do with reprofiling and that is what I have done yesterday evening (see topic on LSM), but there are so many items that need attention with the FM kit, but then again that's what make modelling so enjoyable and stressfree (or not).

You are very much up to speed Neil.

Cheers

Cees

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21 hours ago, LongMan2 said:

Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah I tried fool'n around with the Tamiya engines buts its the molding for the porcupine exhausts with the breather pipes that will be in the incorrect position. The 5th Tamiya Beaufighter engine will allow you to cut out and mod the molding and put the exhaust in the correct position. Yeah it is a lot of trouble yet it is a distinguishing feature of the Halifax with the Herc's. We must build to the prototype Mr Woody37...after all it is scale modelling; however its your kit......so its what ever you wish to do.

 

Don't forgets to notch the flaps if your gonna drop em. And there is bumps over the elevators where they meet the fuselage...which might be some sort of hinge location?

 

I likes the Defiant turret which helps a huge amount. Don't forget to reduce the framing..and its height as its one of the problems if you use the Airfix kit.  I'm not sure about the undersized rear turret...but I think some Halifax had a Liberator rear with twin .50cal but not sure you want to do that. My be Mr. Airfix will give us a new 1/48 scale Halifax for $350 ...by the time you finish this..lol!

 

I'm not sure about the nose on the FM kit...that may be a whole-nother-yory.

 

I've still gots that thump'n headache...

 

PHIL.

I'm still thinking about the exhausts. Whilst the Halifax in Canada has the same or very similar dampers to the Tamiya Beaufighter kit, most Mk.III's have them that look more like the parts that come in the FM kit so I'm thinking of cutting the shroud out of the nacelle to fit the FM exhaust now. These engines are getting rather complicated!

 

Rather than reduce the height of the turret, I'll probably just sit it lower in the fuselage. I've seen some B24's with a Halifax rear turret but never seen a Halifax with a B24 turret TBH.

11 hours ago, Cees Broere said:

The nose could do with reprofiling and that is what I have done yesterday evening (see topic on LSM), but there are so many items that need attention with the FM kit, but then again that's what make modelling so enjoyable and stressfree (or not).

You are very much up to speed Neil.

Cheers

Cees

I'll pop over and have a look, this is a great education in to the kit and the aircraft :)

 

Just come across this great piece of inspiration:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/fonderie-miniatures-halifax-complete-t41388.html

 

 

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I agree both threads and builds are going well for those of us watching too.

Looks like the 2 builders will have a good chance at the solving of this kits problems.

Kudos.

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41 minutes ago, woody37 said:

I've seen some B24's with a Halifax rear turret but never seen a Halifax with a B24 turret TBH.

Late Halifaxes were fitted with the same .50cal rear turret as found on late Lancs - the name and model escapes me but it’s the same version of turret as fitted to ‘Just Jane.’ Some of them carried the gun-laying radar, too. 

 

This late turret is supplied in the more recent releases of the Tamiya Lancaster.  

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Not quite.  Although they do look very similar, the Lancaster had a Frazer-Nash turret and the Halifax a Boulton-Paul.  None ever had a Liberator turret.

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1 hour ago, tomprobert said:

Late Halifaxes

Mk.IX is what I think you're referring to:

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Amazing work on those wing bomb bays Woody, can't wait to see the next stage of this build.

 

Dan

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Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah its the Boulton Paul "D" type turret, and its different to the Lancaster rear turret, yet was fitted to some Mk IIIs. No Liberator rear turret was ever used operationally...yet I remember text saying it was considered somewhere for Halifax's when the "D" rotated, because of shuddering and poor ammunition feed (coastal command)? I think parts from a Me410 were used helped solve this at BD? I have photos and drawings of type "D" if you need them.

 

Yeah you waits till you get to that bomb bay and the split door alignments. I figure you have that already worked out m8!

 

Just a thought...I was wondering if you could use US bomb racks in the wings ?

 

This is going to be fun................not!

 

PHIL.

 

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It was standard on the Mk.IX, but was also seen on earlier bombers.  I tend to think of it on the Mk.VI, as presumably that was the production intention, but as it only ended up on a comparative handful of airframes in wartime there could well have been trials on Mk.IIIs or VIIs.  After all, otherwise it was the same back end.

 

US bomb racks (at least on the bombers) were carried horizontally, so there'd be no strongpoints to fit them to in the wings.  However there'd be no need, as all bombs were manufactured with two lugs at 90 degs, so that they could be carried on US or UK carriers.

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11 hours ago, LongMan2 said:

Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah its the Boulton Paul "D" type turret, and its different to the Lancaster rear turret, yet was fitted to some Mk IIIs. No Liberator rear turret was ever used operationally...yet I remember text saying it was considered somewhere for Halifax's when the "D" rotated, because of shuddering and poor ammunition feed (coastal command)? I think parts from a Me410 were used helped solve this at BD? I have photos and drawings of type "D" if you need them.

 

Yeah you waits till you get to that bomb bay and the split door alignments. I figure you have that already worked out m8!

 

Just a thought...I was wondering if you could use US bomb racks in the wings ?

 

This is going to be fun................not!

 

PHIL.

 

Any chance of getting a look at that info please Phil as I could do with the help for my Lancaster Mk.V, otherwise known as a Lincoln Mk. II

 

Gondor

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17 hours ago, LongMan2 said:

Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah its the Boulton Paul "D" type turret, and its different to the Lancaster rear turret, yet was fitted to some Mk IIIs. No Liberator rear turret was ever used operationally...yet I remember text saying it was considered somewhere for Halifax's when the "D" rotated, because of shuddering and poor ammunition feed (coastal command)? I think parts from a Me410 were used helped solve this at BD? I have photos and drawings of type "D" if you need them.

 

Yeah you waits till you get to that bomb bay and the split door alignments. I figure you have that already worked out m8!

 

Just a thought...I was wondering if you could use US bomb racks in the wings ?

 

This is going to be fun................not!

 

PHIL.

 

Wasn’t this the turret on the Lincoln? I’ve got one of them fitted to the Paragon Lincoln. From what I’ve seen however, photos of 346sqn all seem to have the standard rear turret

 

i was planning to make a mould and form some new doors if I can’t use the kit parts or simply cut some strips and bend them to shape. The bomb bay interior will be quite a bit of work but I’m not aiming for perfection, just something that looks like one. 

 

I dont know what us bomb racks look like or if they’re available so will do some research on that :)

 

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Managed to squeeze a bit of tinkering in tonight due to changed plans. I've decided to fit the FM exhausts to the Beaufighter engines and quite pleased with the result. This is as close to a Mk.III as I can get without getting too anal about accuracy. The cooling flaps will have thin pieces of card glued over the gaps as per real ones but I'll sort them out once all the engines are done. By taking this approach, I can simply fill the drains in on the No.1 engine and flip it round so that the exhaust is on the correct side.

 

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Hi Neil, good to see you at Telford, the Halifax is looking great with all the extra detail you are adding to a pig of a kit

 

Kev

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Coming together nicely woody. This will make another excellent addition to your bomber squadron.  

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Hi Woody37,

 

Yeah its an option using the kit exhausts...I'm still debating on that one. I'm still fool'n around with the messed up wings and that is a pain.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

PHIL.

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