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1/48 Lockheed 12 Electra Junior - best starting point?


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As Lockheed twins seem to have surfaced as a popular topic of late, I got to wondering - what would be the best starting point for a 1/48 Lockheed 12 Electra Junior?  

 

The only potentials I have found are the Classic Airframes Lockheed 14 and the Revell Ventura. I've found mention of a Lockheed 10 in 1/53, but I doubt that would be much good. 

 

Cheers,

  WV908 

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Hi Jordi - I was mainly hoping to find a kit that provides the right engines, props, windows etc and then carve the rest in to shape. It appears this may be possible from the Ventura, although I'd need to change the rake of the windscreen. 

 

Cheers,

  WV908 

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I very much doubt that much would transfer.  The 12 was a considerably smaller aircraft than the other Lockheed twins.

 

Here's a thread talking about drawings, just in case it helps you.

 

Based purely on wingspans, a 1/53 Lockheed 10 has about (not exactly, but pretty close) the same span as a 1/48 Lockheed 12.  Coincidence?  I did a quick visual comparison of 3-views, and it is hard to tell how much would actually directly "scale".  Certainly the fuselage looks rather different in shape.  It also appears that the horizontal tail has a different aspect ratio, though some slicing and dicing might work.  Of course, since they used the same engine, that won't transfer across.

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At least the engines could be bought :

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/parts-decals-for-aircraft-1:48-metallic-details-med-mdr4810?zenid=112c1443c485413cf973560033b06eca

 

And here are some interesting photos and infos (historical)

http://airplane-modelkit.blogspot.com/2010/08/lockheed-l-12.html

Cheers

J-W

P.S>

In Net you can find info on L 12 kit but in 1:50 by Texaco series no 17.

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Yeah, the L10 and L12 were a lot smaller than even the L14 Hudson airframe. 

More like a Beech 18 size. 

The Ventura was fitted with Pratt and Whitney 2800s.... That's like having 2 F4u Corsairs strapped together!! 

You'll be looking for little P&W radials and 2 blade props. 

I don't think any of these kits will get you anywhere near a starting point 

There's a 1.48 Beech 18 /C45 Expeditor that might supply engines and props and a few sundries like seats, but that still leaves a major scratch building project. 

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2 hours ago, rob Lyttle said:

This will show the difference between the L14 Hudson size and the L10 /L12 

The L12 (Junior Electra)  if even a bit smalller than seen on photo L 10 Electra & L 14 (civil) Super Electra :)

J-W 

 

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The G-AFGN has 8 windows, so it is I think L 18 (Lodestar)

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6 minutes ago, JWM said:

The G-AFGN has 8 windows,

My L14s both have 8 on the starboard side, and 7+ door on the port, and spaced close like these. 

Now checking the Lodestar and it's 7 each side with the wider spacings (and the raised Tailplane.) 

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10 hours ago, JWM said:

The G-AFGN has 8 windows, so it is I think L 18 (Lodestar)

G-AFGN  is a model 14

= Hudson type

That aircraft is the historic one that brought PM Chamberlain back from Berlin with his 'piece of paper' from Hitler!

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On 12/10/2019 at 12:29, gingerbob said:

Here's a thread talking about drawings, just in case it helps you.

Have you had a look through this thread, @WV908?

There's photos of an MPM Special Hobby kit in 1.72 of the L12. 

Probably quite old and out of production long time, but could turn up. 

I'd say keep a look out and hope for good luck! 

Also, the 1.53 scale product is a Williams Bros kit. I've never seen it but I've built some of their kits and grab others when I get the chance. 

I love them and don't hesitate to recommend them. 

They're old-school modelling for sure but classy in that way! 

An odd scale, but at almost 1.48 it's going to be a better sizing for the small airframe. 

If I had the luxury of having to pick, that's the one for me! 

Keep us up to speed if you make progress. 

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4 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said:

Have you had a look through this thread, @WV908?

There's photos of an MPM Special Hobby kit in 1.72 of the L12. 

Probably quite old and out of production long time, but could turn up. 

I'd say keep a look out and hope for good luck! 

Also, the 1.53 scale product is a Williams Bros kit. I've never seen it but I've built some of their kits and grab others when I get the chance. 

I love them and don't hesitate to recommend them. 

They're old-school modelling for sure but classy in that way! 

An odd scale, but at almost 1.48 it's going to be a better sizing for the small airframe. 

If I had the luxury of having to pick, that's the one for me! 

Keep us up to speed if you make progress. 

👍

I did have a look but unfortunately the photos won't load :(

 

Cheers,

  WV908

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FWIW, I picked up a Williams Bros Lockheed 10 at the Hiller Museum outside San Francisco (https://www.hiller.org/) about six weeks ago, and they still had a couple on the shelves. 

 

Even if you're not interested in the kit it's a great little museum, and well worth a visit.

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9 hours ago, Admiral Puff said:

FWIW, I picked up a Williams Bros Lockheed 10 at the Hiller Museum outside San Francisco (https://www.hiller.org/) about six weeks ago, and they still had a couple on the shelves. 

 

Even if you're not interested in the kit it's a great little museum, and well worth a visit.

A bit far from me I'm afraid :)

 

Cheers,

  WV908 

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