Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, Gorby said: Looks good so far but I was wondering how you're going to paint it with the wings that close together. Paint it first then mask it with tape, finish the build and remove mask. I've done that before on difficult to reach areas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Paint it first then mask it with tape, finish the build and remove mask. I've done that before on difficult to reach areas. thanks for the tip, I know it will help rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 So I’m meant to be fixing the engines to the wings, well I’m still thinking about the best way how to, thanks for the suggestions. While I’m pondering that I’ve decided to get on with something I know how to do namely filling unwanted detail and adding some rivets. The “top” wing is really upside down so I’ve decided to hide/remove some of the access panels. To achieve this I using a new “tool”, for me anyway, Mr dissolved putty, apparently you can clean off any excess with alcohol, we’ll see how good it is. Putty applied… …and cleaned off. Well it doesn’t look too bad, of course the true test will be when they get some primer on them but at this point I’m quite pleased with the results, I think its a wee bit better than Perfect Putty at least for this type of application. I also wanted to remove/re-shape the “bend” join to disguise the fact that it was made to have the landing gear attached at these points. So after filling the location holes with Squadron green… I left it to fully cure overnight and then used a file and sanding sticks, lots of sanding, were then used to smooth the new profile. next I’ll be filling the other unwanted holes and then applying primer to see how much more work is needed. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Nice bit of clean up work. I like Mr. Dissolved Putty too, but find that it shrinks up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Thom216 said: Nice bit of clean up work. I like Mr. Dissolved Putty too, but find that it shrinks up a bit. I've just put a coat of primer on these and the access panels have vanished! these are all shallow but its good to know about the shrinkage rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 In order to see what other work needs to be done to the upper wing I first filled the unwanted holes with small pieces of plastic rod and scraps of plasticard, as suggested by Troy Smith during my Rat Bird build, thanks for the tip Troy. The plasticard was then trimmed and sanded. Before spraying a coat of UMP/Stynylrez black primer I fitted the wing machine guns and landing light cover. I’m fitting and “covering” the landing light as its roughly where I plan the engine nacelle to be and as I’m not sure how I’m going to place the engine on the wing and you might have been able to see the gap if I hadn’t. The primer shows a couple of spots that need attention. The wings have moulded walk-ways(?) which needed to be removed. Now that I’ve sorted those out I gave them another blast of black primer. next I’ll be re-scribing and adding some rivet detail. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Before I add the upper wings, engines and booms I’ll have to paint the upper parts of the lower wings and the underside of the upper wings as it’ll be difficult to reach them once they’ve been fixed. As far as I’m concerned the only real option for a camo’ scheme for this aircraft is a splinter scheme, I had toyed with the idea of an all red aircraft al-la the Red Baron but I think I’ll save that for another build. I first thought of a ‘normal’ green on green splinter however, when DalekCheese and Hook confirmed that the early tricolour camo’ scheme was from the legion condor and then Troy showed me the Hungarian scheme I have to go for a tricolour splinter pattern. In the October(2019) Eduard info magazine they showcased a Finnish Blenheim Mk.1F built by Robert Szwarc with a black and green camo’... …I really like the contrast between the black and green. My insignia is based on a ‘merger’ of a German cross with a hint of Swastika So the scheme I’ve come up with is this… Base colour will be RLM76 light blue with the upper splinter colours of RLM02 grey (which looks greenish to me) and German grey (almost black) Wing insignia will be white outlines and the boom (side) insignia white outline with a black centre, the aircraft number/letters will probably be white although I’ve not decided on what these will be. Next I’ll be adding rivet detail and re-scribing some panel lines. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpopandchips Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Nice colours and just about the same as I was going to use on my kitbash but without the black. She is going to look great (your build that's is not mine). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalekCheese Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Great! Will the props have spinner patterns on them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, rockpopandchips said: Nice colours and just about the same as I was going to use on my kitbash but without the black. She is going to look great (your build that's is not mine). I'm sure yours will also look great rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, DalekCheese said: Great! Will the props have spinner patterns on them? Yes they will, I might try a spiral on the centre and a white quarter on the outer ones, I'll decide nearer the time rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Coming along very nicely. I like the colour scheme. I'm still pondering what to do to my build yet! I'm not sure, but those 'walkways' may have been the fuel tank cover panels. But, it's a fictional thing anyway so no loss. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said: Coming along very nicely. I like the colour scheme. I'm still pondering what to do to my build yet! I'm not sure, but those 'walkways' may have been the fuel tank cover panels. But, it's a fictional thing anyway so no loss. Pete Thanks for the info Pete I was thinking about showing fuel tanks behind the wing engines, perhaps a missing panel where you can see one of the tanks? I know the British aircraft, I'm thinking of the Mossie and Lancaster, had rust red coloured fuel tanks so at the moment that's how I'm thinking of displaying them. On the other hand I might just close them and save myself some extra hassle, the good thing about building like this is you can add as much or as little detail as you want, I'll wait until I've fitted the booms, or at least worked out how I'm going to fit them, before I decide one way or the other. rgds John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Great looking scheme you've chosen. What do you call the insignia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Thom216 said: Great looking scheme you've chosen. What do you call the insignia? I don't know really, how about "Eisernes Kreuz" Iron Cross rgds John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Before I can add the engine nacelles and booms I wanted to add some rivet detail and re-scribe some panel lines that have been removed. I want to add a couple of access panels for the machine guns so I scribed a couple of boxes to represent these panels. While I was at it I re-scribed a couple of panel lines that had been sanded too much. Rosie the Riveter was broken out and put to use. I first marked where I wanted the rivets to be with a soft pencil. I then used the riveting tool to carefully make the rivets. The “lower” wings were also riveted. Next I’ll be painting the wing areas that will be hard to reach once their fixed in place. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Neat riveting. john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Once the top wings are fitted I think it would be difficult to paint the underside of the upper wing and the upper side of the lower wing, also the fuselage might be tricky to get at? So I decided to paint these parts before attempting to fix them together. I know that some of the “joins” will require attention but I think the majority or the wing area should be OK. Firstly the cockpit area was masked before a coat of my favourite UMP/Stynylrez black primer could be applied. Seeing her in black it was very tempting to leave her “as is” and go for a night fighter scheme but I’ve got my heart set on a tricolour splinter camo’, so maybe if I attempt this build again I’ll go for a night fighter. The “base” colour for the aircraft is going to be RLM76 light blue, I’m using Hobby Color H417 RLM76 light blue. My preferred paint method is ‘black basing’ so I use thinned, 60% - 40%, paint for the marble layer. I then applied several highly thinned, 80% - 20%, paint to blend the marble layer. The underside of the “top” wing will remain light blue however, the fuselage and top of the “lower” wing will have the splinter applied which I be attempting next. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Lovely mottle-job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Thom216 said: Lovely mottle-job! thanks Thom I know black basing isn't everyones cup of tea but it suits me and I like the overall variation it gives to the airframe rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’ve decided on a tricolour camo’, the base airframe colour will be the light blue, the first splinter colour to be applied is Hobby Color H70 RLM02 gray, to my eye this is a grey green rather than a ‘straight’ grey. I masked for the colour… …and then used a thinned, 60% - 40%, paint for the marble layer. Seeing this marble layer got me thinking, if you ever want to practice “mottling” for the sides of Luftwaffe aircraft here’s where you can! Once again I then applied a couple of highly thinned, 80% - 20%, paint to blend the marble layer. The last colour to be applied is Tamiya XF-63 German grey, as always first is the marble layer. And then to finish off this part of the splinter camo’ I then applied several highly thinned, 80% - 20%, paint to blend the marble layer. Here’s how she looks with some paint. Next I’ll be attempting to fix the engine nacelles to the lower wing. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Fantastic paint work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Now that looks the business. Nice masking too, I can't see any bleeds. 🔍 I like the look of that marble layer too. I may have to steal the technique. Here's a thought, prop rotation. All three going the same way around would cause a bit of a torque challenge. Cheers, Pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Bengalensis said: Fantastic paint work! thank you, I'm not sure how much of it will be seen once the "top" wing is added and how much of it will get messed up when the booms are added? rgds John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: Now that looks the business. Nice masking too, I can't see any bleeds. 🔍 I like the look of that marble layer too. I may have to steal the technique. Here's a thought, prop rotation. All three going the same way around would cause a bit of a torque challenge. Cheers, Pete Thanks Pete, I'm always amazed when/if there's no bleeds, not nose bleeds no bleeds. Feel free to steel away, I "borrowed" it from Matt McDoogal over at Doogs' models, he's done an interesting batch of videos on the technique... their well worth spending a couple of hours watching the whole series. as for the prop rotation I have a couple of 'thin' props for the outer engines and a 'fat' prop for the centre, don't know what difference that'd make but in my mythical world I'm thinking that'll be enough. Either that or the aircraft has been designed that way so that it can chase the Rat Bird as that flies in circles until it drops its bomb load. 😉 rgds John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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