vppelt68 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Devastated by todays news of the loss of several life and the Collings Foundation B-17G "Nine-O-Nine" in a flight accident, I suggest we honour the hard working enthusiasts keeping all those 1:1 live museum pieces running and giving us not just the looks, but also the sounds, smells and emotions of the machines in action by putting up a "Warbirds and other live relics GB". Your build can be an old warplane, tank, vintage race car, locomotive, whatever, as long as it is or has once been in running condition to educate and thrill people. The "has been" lets us include machines like the poor old #909 and such . As good examples of what I'm talking about are the BBMF, SwAFHF, various private collections... I think the choices are endless. Any takers? V-P EDIT: 6.11.19 museum pieces now included, as requested - "live" removed from the Title! 1. vppelt68 2. Mancunian airman 3. Col. 4. Rob G. 5. Corsairfoxfouruncle 6. Valkyrie 7. Ol´Scrapiron 8. Paul J 9. Mig Eater 10. Colin W 11. Back in the Saddle 12. ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Sounds an excellent idea for a Gb of which I would join. I particularly miss the Bae Mosquito that crashed many years back . . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Yes. Let's do this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Good, three is a group! I have my eyes set on building the B-17G "Yankee Lady" if when this takes place . V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Hmm, some random thoughts on the subject, in no particular order... Need a co-host? If so I'd be delighted to take on the role. The Swedish Air Force Historic Flight have a Hawker Hunter in 'Acrojets' livery but rather than being an F.4 it's an ex-Swiss AF F.58 so that could look good beside my F.4 model. RNHF stuff has plenty appeal to me and a lot of kits suitable existing in the stash already. What about those new build Yak-9 with the Allison engine; eligible for this GB? Same with that re-engined Fw-190 with the four-blade prop? Oh, oh, then there's that gorgeous Spitfire PR.XI Or the various attempts to recreate a PR.1 currently underway. Plus that Hawker Typhoon project. What's your thoughts on items currently under rebuild/restoration but not yet completed such as these or the unsucessful attempt to get B-29 Kee Bird flown from Greenland? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I've always wanted to do a Thunder City Frightening... No promises, but count me as interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Col. you're hired! You also raised several good questions, that I leave to be answered. I didn't have a view about them when I came up with the idea, and a few hours later I still don't, so it's up to you and other interested members to decide! V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Hello V-P a couple of quick questions ? One how would you determine if its a warbird vs a standard model build of say a P-51. Last time i looked there were 253 mustangs still in existence ? Yes i counted off the list here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_North_American_P-51_Mustangs Would you be required to add the civil registration ? Most warbirds do have them somewhere in small size usually under the Horizontal stabs. If doing the Red bull warbirds you would need redbull logos, as most if not all the aircraft I've seen wear them. A main reason i don't like those restorations, but thats another story. Would you need photographic evidence of it being in a museum, gate guard, or a flying warbird to prove its existence. How would you prove someone isn't using any generic decals, and calling it a warbird ? Im sure i could come up with more questions but thats what comes to mind right now. Interested but curious ? Dennis Edited October 4, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Dennis, I just naively trust people who are building plastic models. Some people strive for maximum accuracy, some not. Of course the build must be based on a real, running machine. The ultimate challenge should be to have fun, let's do just that! V-P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 12 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Hello V-P a couple of quick questions ? One how would you determine if its a warbird vs a standard model build of say a P-51. Last time i looked there were 253 mustangs still in existence ? Yes i counted off the list here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_North_American_P-51_Mustangs Would you be required to add the civil registration ? Most warbirds do have them somewhere in small size usually under the Horizontal stabs. If doing the Red bull warbirds you would need redbull logos, as most if not all the aircraft I've seen wear them. A main reason i don't like those restorations, but thats another story. Would you need photographic evidence of it being in a museum, gate guard, or a flying warbird to prove its existence. How would you prove someone isn't using any generic decals, and calling it a warbird ? Im sure i could come up with more questions but thats what comes to mind right now. Interested but curious ? Dennis The nasty co-mod will check and administer a suitably unsuitable punishment to anyone caught faking it I'd say a photo or link to prove it is or at least was at one point a live relic is fine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 What about....an aircraft that was flying but now in a museum? I’ve always wanted to build the Loch Doon spitfire that crashed killing its pilot Frantisek Hekl. Aircraft was eventually raised and refurbished now in Dumfries museum...but doesn’t fly.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol' Scrapiron Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Sounds great. I would think that an accompanying "non-period" reference photo is ample verification... and planes on display in a museum are just as "educational" as the flying/touring warbird fleet. Not sure if I am going to commit my HK 1/32 B-17 to portray B-17G 44-83563 Fuddy Duddy ... but I'm in for something similar. - ----- Hmmmm.... I have a great idea to make this one extra special and fit the category EXACTLY -- can't wait!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 Let´s see what happens by next November, with some luck this one, the Boeing GB and maybe even the Night and Day GB might make it past the required 30 missi... participants and thus be eligible for the 2021 vote 🙂. V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm up for it. Plenty to choose from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 09/10/2019 at 23:49, Valkyrie said: What about....an aircraft that was flying but now in a museum? I’ve always wanted to build the Loch Doon spitfire that crashed killing its pilot Frantisek Hekl. Aircraft was eventually raised and refurbished now in Dumfries museum...but doesn’t fly.. Museum pieces added to eligible subjects, welcome! V-P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Does it specifically have to be a plane, how about Bovington's Tiger 131? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mig Eater said: Does it specifically have to be a plane, how about Bovington's Tiger 131? Can't see why not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 02/10/2019 at 20:31, vppelt68 said: Your build can be an old warplane, tank, vintage race car, locomotive, whatever... Yep, since the beginning so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Sounds like a good idea for a group build. Over the last few years I've managed to build the Shuttleworth Sea Hurricane, ex RNAS Historic Flight Firefly and several planes from the RTAF Museum in Bangkok. All have been part of other group builds here on Britmodeller so a GB based on such subjects would be a good idea. Count me in for 2021 but too far away to say what with. Colin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Count me in too, with the Airfix de Havilland Vampire T11 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 So would the Waddington gate guardian XM607 count as eligible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Let's decide it is, now! Wanna join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hmmm....an excuse to build a Vulcan? Very tempted but can't commit due to the lack of a Vulcan in the stash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Abandoned Project said: Hmmm....an excuse to build a Vulcan? Very tempted but can't commit due to the lack of a Vulcan in the stash. There's a cure for that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Col. said: There's a cure for that Just remember, eBay is a four letter word and should never be mentioned. Edited January 11, 2020 by Abandoned Project 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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